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Old 01-19-2021, 07:41 PM   #3581
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I tend to agree. I don't think that element of this gets enough attention: not only did BT get an elite #1 goalie...he took him from one divisional rival and blocked another from getting him.

In my view Markstrom on the Oil would have made them very dangerous. They have MANY problems but Markstrom could have covered up a lot of those issues instantly. The team could have traded offense for offense with teams - knowing they had, at most nights, the better guy between the pipes.

The difference between the Oilers with Markstrom and the Oilers with Koskinen is huge.
The best part of it all, is the current division alignment really shines a light on this.
The North division may be the deepest as far as goalies go, and the Oilers are at the bottom. Having to play vezina caliber goalies on most nights, while their goalies flop around and leave their glasses in their locker, means trading offense for offense is a recipe for disaster. McDavid and Draisaitl both have to have multi point games, in the same game, for them to have a chance, and as we're seeing 4 games in, its not that hard to shut 1 or both down more often than not. The Oilers duo won't get to feast on 25 backups this season. At best, they see Campbell, Brossoit, Hogberg and Demko 3 maybe 4 times a piece. That leaves 40-44 games where they are clearly outclassed in net. The fact that their defense is a pile of garbage, and their forwards are just the flies hovering above that pile means it's going to be a wonderful season of watching them fail.

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Old 01-19-2021, 07:52 PM   #3582
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There is a poll up at HF, what is the top 3 problems with the oilers.
Two of the top responses are "lack of intensity and heart" and "poor execution/decision making". Don't ever change Edmonton.


Also, which one of you put "the water" as an answer?
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"Why do we suck on years with no sure fire #1 overall?"
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:21 PM   #3584
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Watch them put Drai back with McDick and go 8-1-1 in their next 10.
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:23 PM   #3585
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Watch them put Drai back with McDick and go 8-1-1 in their next 10.
That comment is kinda like my arsehole.

I can’t see it.
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Watch them put Drai back with McDick and go 8-1-1 in their next 10.
You meant 1-8-1 right?

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Watch them put Drai back with McDick and go 8-1-1 in their next 10.

No. Don’t think that’s gonna happen. Oddly specific though.
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I was just listening to the Oilers post-game show from last night. Rob Brown thinks that the reason the Oilers have had such a poor start is because visiting teams are so extremely desperate playing against "the two best players in the world." Poor Edmonton doesn't stand a chance with every one else playing the Oilers so hard. How terribly unfair.
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If McDavid is in fact choosing his linemates, I don't even blame him. I'm sure he doesn't have any interest in dragging AHL talent through games, so he's got to basically instruct the coach that he's going to play with the few actual NHL players they have.
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Old 01-19-2021, 10:06 PM   #3590
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Four games into the season and it's a full blown crisis up there Hahaha.
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He is officially "unfit to play".



It's been speculated that he showed up grossly out of shape.
How fit do you have to be to not play defensively, and pick up scraps from 5 ft out?
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Maybe Neal isn’t just out of shape.
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Maybe Neal isn’t just out of shape.
Is he on LTIR? If so can’t see being out of shape a legit reason.
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Maybe Neal isn’t just out of shape.
Round is a shape.
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Old 01-19-2021, 10:51 PM   #3596
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Is he on LTIR? If so can’t see being out of shape a legit reason.
According to Cap Friendly, he is not on the LTIR or the taxi squad. He is just listed as a non-roster player:

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/oilers

Today is the 15th day since he was deemed unfit to play, so if it is just a precautionary COVID quarantine, they should be activating him tomorrow.
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Talk about the Oilers draft record would be incomplete without remembering 1995, when the draft was held in Edmonton. The Oilers held the #6 pick and as they approached the podium, the fans chanted Doan, Doan, Doan - hoping their team would draft the blue chip prospect from Alberta. Mistakenly thinking themselves as being much smarter than the average fan, they went on to draft Steve Kelly. Doan, chosen with the #7 pick by Winnipeg, goes on to play 1540 games with 972 points. Kelly plays 149 and has 21 points. (Edmonton boy Iginla was drafted at #11).

Edmonton is no good.
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Oh man, that is brutal. Although if the drafted Doan, they likely would have ruined him as well.

My favourite draft story about the Oilers is that the NHL actually had to change the lottery rules because of them. They sucked so bad and for so long that it caused a permanent ripple effect across the league. There should be a banner for that.
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I was just listening to the Oilers post-game show from last night. Rob Brown thinks that the reason the Oilers have had such a poor start is because visiting teams are so extremely desperate playing against "the two best players in the world." Poor Edmonton doesn't stand a chance with every one else playing the Oilers so hard. How terribly unfair.
The Oilers have played 4 games this year, all on home ice, and the opposition has started their backup for 2 of them. Yeah, really desperate.
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I challenge anyone to come up with a theoretical trade involving McDavid, realizing that teams are all close to the cap, so salaries going each way have to be fairly close (likely within $500k). Also, there would have to be some amount of perceived value going each way that also has to line up.
If there was a demanded trade Buffalo could do it with ease.

Something like...

To Edmonton:

Jack Eichel and Jack Quinn

To Buffalo:

McJesus

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