12-19-2020, 09:58 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Which makes it absurd that any province would stand in the way.
I mean you, me, anybody can jump on a plane today and fly anywhere these teams would be going within Canada, and never have to quarantine or self isolate or any other measure.
Somehow though, a group of people under a bubble type existence and following a strict protocol pose some sort of threat to the general public?
Makes zero sense.
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Optics and politics, that’s all it is. People on the radio today complaining about the world juniors going on and their in a bubble.
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12-19-2020, 10:11 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
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Does that mean that the players get their full salaries for playing 26 games less?
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To be paid back in escrow in future years basically.
Quite a deal for the players. Especially ones about to retire.
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12-19-2020, 10:32 AM
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#63
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Seems easier and more logical to put the one Canadian team in Saskatoon, Hamilton or Quebec City than to make all 7 find US locations.
Could even double up a Canadian city if they had to, like Canucks also play out of Edmonton.
The mental health lift for Canadians will be thousands of times greater than the risk of a charter airplane of 50 people, isolating at a hotel, playing hockey and then leaving charter.
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Has it been verified its "one team" or is it "one province"?
Because if its Alberta or Ontario standing in the way, its a whole other issue, particularly if its Ontario.
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12-19-2020, 10:44 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Has it been verified its "one team" or is it "one province"?
Because if its Alberta or Ontario standing in the way, its a whole other issue, particularly if its Ontario.
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Multiple insiders/reporters have said it is BC
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12-19-2020, 10:58 AM
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#65
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Seems easier and more logical to put the one Canadian team in Saskatoon, Hamilton or Quebec City than to make all 7 find US locations.
Could even double up a Canadian city if they had to, like Canucks also play out of Edmonton.
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So, how would this even work? Would a team like the Canucks commute back and forth between Vancouver—where they live with their families—and Edmonton—where they practise and play games?
I don't see how something like this is feasible, and I think temporarily moving an entire team's-worth of players, personnel and their families to another city for four months is a non-starter.
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12-19-2020, 11:10 AM
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#66
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
So, how would this even work? Would a team like the Canucks commute back and forth between Vancouver—where they live with their families—and Edmonton—where they practise and play games?
I don't see how something like this is feasible, and I think temporarily moving an entire team's-worth of players, personnel and their families to another city for four months is a non-starter.
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Would it not be better than moving them to another country to play all their games though?
Seems to me that there are 3 options for them at this point if the BC health authorities are going to be so pedantic versus other provinces..
Play in a Canadian city, play in an American city or dont play at all.
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12-19-2020, 11:11 AM
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#67
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Multiple insiders/reporters have said it is BC
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Thanks...hadnt heard it confirmed,
And....of course it is.
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12-19-2020, 11:38 AM
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#68
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Would it not be better than moving them to another country to play all their games though?
Seems to me that there are 3 options for them at this point if the BC health authorities are going to be so pedantic versus other provinces..
Play in a Canadian city, play in an American city or dont play at all.
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But if those are the options, and the BC govt is intractable, then I can't see how this is happening. Simply put: any situation that sees players sequestered from their families for any significant length of time is just not going to work, and neither will it be feasible for players to pack up their family and relocate for a few months.
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12-19-2020, 11:40 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
So, how would this even work? Would a team like the Canucks commute back and forth between Vancouver—where they live with their families—and Edmonton—where they practise and play games?
I don't see how something like this is feasible, and I think temporarily moving an entire team's-worth of players, personnel and their families to another city for four months is a non-starter.
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The team would live out of a hotel when playing their home games in the temporary city. Why would they commute?
Sharks will probably be playing in another city.
What's the other option if BC government says no? A 7 team bubble in Edmonton? All 7 teams move to the US without their families? One team relocating temporarily is the only easy solution.
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12-19-2020, 12:05 PM
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#70
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
The team would live out of a hotel when playing their home games in the temporary city. Why would they commute?
Sharks will probably be playing in another city.
What's the other option if BC government says no? A 7 team bubble in Edmonton? All 7 teams move to the US without their families? One team relocating temporarily is the only easy solution.
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I guess if you can convince the players to do so. I am really sceptical that this will be a simple sell even in a few markets.
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12-19-2020, 12:08 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I guess if you can convince the players to do so. I am really sceptical that this will be a simple sell even in a few markets.
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It doesn’t sound like much fun but I think many players would choose to play and earn their salary.
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12-19-2020, 12:45 PM
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#72
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I personally support throwing the Canucks out of the league for a season. If you can't win one championship in 50 years, losing your spot in the league for one seems fair to me.
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12-19-2020, 12:47 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I guess if you can convince the players to do so. I am really sceptical that this will be a simple sell even in a few markets.
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What is their choice though? Opt out and miss out on their pay? For the amount of money they make, it really isn't that big of a sacrifice and if they view it that way then they can go Hamonic's route.
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12-19-2020, 01:06 PM
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#74
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
But if those are the options, and the BC govt is intractable, then I can't see how this is happening. Simply put: any situation that sees players sequestered from their families for any significant length of time is just not going to work, and neither will it be feasible for players to pack up their family and relocate for a few months.
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The Raptors are doing just that for this season. The Blue Jays had to do it last season. Why are hockey players special in this regard?
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12-19-2020, 01:09 PM
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#75
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
But if those are the options, and the BC govt is intractable, then I can't see how this is happening. Simply put: any situation that sees players sequestered from their families for any significant length of time is just not going to work, and neither will it be feasible for players to pack up their family and relocate for a few months.
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Then the Canucks players will need to convince the players on 31 other teams not to play.
Good luck with that.
The PA may be a "union" but those other players aren't going to sacrifice their earnings because the Canucks cant play in Vancouver.
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12-19-2020, 01:09 PM
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#76
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Underdog
The Raptors are doing just that for this season. The Blue Jays had to do it last season. Why are hockey players special in this regard?
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Blue Jays and Raptors were not in a Canadian division. Anyone in Canada can do what the hockey players can do when it comes to travel.
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12-19-2020, 01:15 PM
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#77
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Then the Canucks players will need to convince the players on 31 other teams not to play.
Good luck with that.
The PA may be a "union" but those other players aren't going to sacrifice their earnings because the Canucks cant play in Vancouver.
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Yeah, I guess you are right. That sure would suck, though.
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12-19-2020, 01:15 PM
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#78
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Jiggy
Blue Jays and Raptors were not in a Canadian division. Anyone in Canada can do what the hockey players can do when it comes to travel.
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Right, the Raptors and Jays were forced to do it in another country, the Canucks aren't. So even less of an inconvenience.
I guess my question would be do they have a choice? Doesn't sound like anyone asked the Raps/Jays players for permission. I doubt the CBA has anything in it about forced relocation due to a global pandemic.
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12-19-2020, 01:55 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yeah, I guess you are right. That sure would suck, though.
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Being a Canuck already sucks. They should be used to it.
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12-19-2020, 02:12 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Then shut down flights into Vancouver Airport. This is getting stupid. The risk can be properly managed. It’s places like Surrey they need to be worried about.
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