[Signing] Flames sign Jacob Markstrom. (6 yrs, $6mil AAV)

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Look at the track record. How many playoff series has he won and how has he played? Even Wideman and Russell ramped it up one year for us to beat the Canucks.

Why does our entire team gear down in the post season? Does he not bear any responsibility? or is it all on the coaches?

He an awesome human being and is great for the community but how many passes does he get for his pitiful post season performances?

We won a series eh, beat Winnipeg which to me counts haha.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

We won a series eh, beat Winnipeg which to me counts haha.

Great... how did he play?

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by johnny makarov

we aren't winning a round with gio as captain. Need a culture change. If we aren't going to dump him we need to take the c away.

edgelord

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Look at the track record. How many playoff series has he won and how has he played? Even Wideman and Russell ramped it up one year for us to beat the Canucks.

Why does our entire team gear down in the post season? Does he not bear any responsibility? or is it all on the coaches?

He an awesome human being and is great for the community but how many passes does he get for his pitiful post season performances?

Well I don’t think Flames would have lost that series in 2015 against the Canucks, had Gio been in the line up lol.

You do realize that the whole team plays, right?
Gio wasn’t great in the last playoffs, but neither were pretty much everyone else. In fact, the majority of players had a down year in general. I don’t think that was because Gio is a bad captain or that he set the tone for the team to play poorly

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Look at the track record. How many playoff series has he won and how has he played? Even Wideman and Russell ramped it up one year for us to beat the Canucks.

Why does our entire team gear down in the post season? Does he not bear any responsibility? or is it all on the coaches?

He an awesome human being and is great for the community but how many passes does he get for his pitiful post season performances?

Very lazy and weak take overall. Are you suggesting had Gio not been hurt the Flames wouldn’t have beaten the Canucks in that playoff series that pitted the 8th seeded flames against the 6th seeded Canucks in round 1?

Such a weak argument with no facts that place far too much of the blame on one player rather than the entire team. Are you suggesting he is the reason that Gaudreau, and Monahan struggle in the postseason. Was he telling Brian Elliott to absolutely suck in 2017 so we could be swept despite very even play with the Ducks through the first 3 games? Did he tell Cam Talbot to just stop playing after going up 3-0 in game 6 this past summer?

Feels like you just decided that this core won a series against the garbage Canucks in 2015 while Gio was hurt and lost in the first round the other 3 times they made it that it must be all his fault?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The Flames had everything go right in 2018-19 and finished first.

Pretty much had everything go wrong in 2019-20 and finished in a playoff spot.

A normalized year probably has them top 9-12 in the league in my mind.

What?

Valimaki was injured and missed the year. Other than that the Flames were one of the most consistent injury free line-ups in the league.

Are you counting on Gaudreau and Monahan having a off year? Gio playing like the best D-man over 35 in the league instead of just the best D-man?

Rittich getting worn down as he played past the 30 game point?

Mangiapane, Dube, Anderssson and even Talbot exceeded expectations. Backlund and Lindholm had close to career seasons... maybe the 2nd best season in each of their careers. Tkachuk lead the team in scoring.

What went wrong? Rieder and Jankowski not kicking 10 goals each from the 4th line?

[Tabaracci_31]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What?

Valimaki was injured and missed the year. Other than that the Flames were one of the most consistent injury free line-ups in the league.

Are you counting on Gaudreau and Monahan having a off year? Gio playing like the best D-man over 35 in the league instead of just the best D-man?

Rittich getting worn down as he played past the 30 game point?

Mangiapane, Dube, Anderssson and even Talbot exceeded expectations. Backlund and Lindholm had close to career seasons... maybe the 2nd best season in each of their careers. Tkachuk lead the team in scoring.

What went wrong? Rieder and Jankowski not kicking 10 goals each from the 4th line?

Seriously? Did you already forget about what happened with our coaching situation? Or convenient omission? Or just not a big deal to you?

[D as in David]

In a recent article by Travis Yost at TSN, he indicated that Gio was battling a hamstring injury the last half of the season. Not sure if that was still bothering him during the playoffs, though.

[sec304]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What?

Valimaki was injured and missed the year. Other than that the Flames were one of the most consistent injury free line-ups in the league.

Are you counting on Gaudreau and Monahan having a off year? Gio playing like the best D-man over 35 in the league instead of just the best D-man?

Rittich getting worn down as he played past the 30 game point?

Mangiapane, Dube, Anderssson and even Talbot exceeded expectations. Backlund and Lindholm had close to career seasons... maybe the 2nd best season in each of their careers. Tkachuk lead the team in scoring.

What went wrong? Rieder and Jankowski not kicking 10 goals each from the 4th line?

Really? I can't tell if you're just a troll or worse

[Gaskal]

Ricardo is probably convinced 2 + 2 = 5.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Ricardo is probably convinced 2 + 2 = 5.

I wouldn't be shocked to find out he thinks 2 + 2 = pizzabagel.

[ignite09]

What exactly did ricardo say that was wrong? After the coaching change, and the 7 game bump that came with it. The Flames went right back to being what they are, a mediocre team. There were more then a few that dealt with worse luck then the Flames.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ignite09

What exactly did ricardo say that was wrong? After the coaching change, and the 7 game bump that came with it. The Flames went right back to being what they are, a mediocre team. There were more then a few that dealt with worse luck then the Flames.

I find it funny that people just get to scrap the 7 game winning streak like it is a given or purely thanks to some new coach. They won those games it turned their season around.

Their offense woke up after the coaching change scoring 4 or more goals in 5 of 26 games under Peters and in 19 of 43 games under Ward.

The team was clearly playing differently under Ward and much better. They were a top 10 team not mediocre.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I find it funny that people just get to scrap the 7 game winning streak like it is a given or purely thanks to some new coach. They won those games it turned their season around.

Their offense woke up after the coaching change scoring 4 or more goals in 5 of 26 games under Peters and in 19 of 43 games under Ward.

The team was clearly playing differently under Ward and much better. They were a top 10 team not mediocre.

I scrap the 7 game winning streak because it's not indicative of who the Flames were before, or after. I do the exact same thing to the Oilers when I remove there huge start to last season. If some of you feel they are a top ten team, cool. I don't, and I don't thing I'm alone in that assessment.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

I don’t buy this argument at all. What, in Gio’s qualities as a player/person do you think instills a need of a “culture change”?

Do you really think that if the “C” was placed on the chest of another player, that this teams culture would suddenly change? Gio would be looked at as a leader of this team regardless of him wearing the “C” or not.

I personally believe that the impact of wearing letters is a bit overblown

What you are reading from him is psychosis in action.

Just wait til he starts calling him Giosaurus or some such lame nickname.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What?

Valimaki was injured and missed the year. Other than that the Flames were one of the most consistent injury free line-ups in the league.

Are you counting on Gaudreau and Monahan having a off year? Gio playing like the best D-man over 35 in the league instead of just the best D-man?

Rittich getting worn down as he played past the 30 game point?

Mangiapane, Dube, Anderssson and even Talbot exceeded expectations. Backlund and Lindholm had close to career seasons... maybe the 2nd best season in each of their careers. Tkachuk lead the team in scoring.

What went wrong? Rieder and Jankowski not kicking 10 goals each from the 4th line?

No, you do not get to do this.

YOU are the one who posted the article which asserted that the Flames are a Stanley Cup contending team. If you disagree with that, then there is no reason really for anyone to take you seriously in your attempt to use the same article as a reliable measure for Jacob Markstrom.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ignite09

What exactly did ricardo say that was wrong? After the coaching change, and the 7 game bump that came with it. The Flames went right back to being what they are, a mediocre team. There were more then a few that dealt with worse luck then the Flames.

He posted an article with the intent to prove that Jacob Markstrom is not a top-ten NHL goalie, but then strenuously objected to the idea forwarded by the same article that the Flames are a Cup contending team.

ricardodw is an obvious trolling hypocrite.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

He posted an article with the intent to prove that Jacob Markstrom is not a top-ten NHL goalie, but then strenuously objected to the idea forwarded by the same article that the Flames are a Cup contending team.

ricardodw is an obvious trolling hypocrite.

I was just referring to his last post, didn't read the last page.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ignite09

I was just referring to his last post, didn't read the last page.

With some posters it is essential to consider context. When this particular poster posts it is only ever in an attempt to disparage the Flames or an individual Flames player. There are occasionally snippets of truth embedded within his posts, but buried so deep beneath a veneer of obsessive disdain as to make them worthless.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ignite09

I scrap the 7 game winning streak because it's not indicative of who the Flames were before, or after. I do the exact same thing to the Oilers when I remove there huge start to last season. If some of you feel they are a top ten team, cool. I don't, and I don't thing I'm alone in that assessment.

Well then take every teams best winning streak away...Flames are 4th in wins over the last two seasons and added a top goalie. Top ten is pretty reasonable...it will be hard to rank teams this season though with only divisional play.