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Old 11-08-2020, 10:21 PM   #5441
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The thing is, Trump himself tweeted out Four Seasons Total Landscaping. It's not like he just tweeted Four Seasons and then someone down the chain messed up. He tweeted out the full name.
That wasn't his first tweet. The first tweet (since deleted) just said it would be at "Four Seasons, Philadelphia".
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Yuck. Bibi is a war criminal.
Not wanting to open up any cans of worms here, but just want to be on record as having objected to this post.
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Not wanting to open up any cans of worms here, but just want to be on record as having objected to this post.
It’s opened. Go on...


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The case involving Israel follows years of preliminary investigations. Bensouda said in December that she would seek to open a formal inquiry into alleged continuing war crimes in the occupied West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip.

It would look at alleged crimes carried out by both Israelis and Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas, which has been accused of “intentionally directing attacks against civilians”, according to Bensouda’s office.

She intends to investigate incidents during the 2014 Gaza war between Israel and Hamas. The case could also be expanded to include the alleged killings by Israeli soldiers of more than 200 Palestinians, including more than 40 children, at demonstrations along the Gaza frontier during the past two years.

Separately, Bensouda argued there was a “reasonable basis” to believe that Israeli authorities had committed war crimes by moving Israeli civilians into the West Bank to live in settlements. Under the Geneva convention, signed after the second world war, the transfer of civilians into occupied land is prohibited.

In his interview, Netanyahu, who intends to declare large parts of the Palestinian territories as Israeli land, said the ICC was impinging on “Israel’s right, the Jewish people’s right, to live in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel”.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:44 PM   #5444
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:50 PM   #5445
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The statement was made as conclusively factual, which is false.

Anyway as I said, I just to be on the record as having objected.
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nm. Seen it's already been discussed

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Old 11-08-2020, 11:50 PM   #5447
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The thing is, Trump himself tweeted out Four Seasons Total Landscaping. It's not like he just tweeted Four Seasons and then someone down the chain messed up. He tweeted out the full name.

However it happened though, it's just hilarious. It better be a side-bar story in future history textbooks that tell of the Trump 2020 defeat, with a picture of Rudy behind a podium in a strip mall parking lot trying to convince the world he wasn't crazy and Trump was the real winner.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325087011464749056

No. That’s the last tweet standing. There was a preceding tweet
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No small coincidence they’re both orange.
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They've had a Secret Service detail from the time of the primaries (perhaps even earlier).

It's not something that was put into place at/post election day.
Actually after you leave the white house you get a lifetime of secret service protection. So theres always been a detail since 120 days before is first run as VP.

What they did tho is drastically up the number for the election then re-uped the numbers when the count was swinging for Biden and when they caught the 2 wannabe terrorists from Virginia going to Pennsylvania to shoot up the counting area. Then the flocked to bidens home and locked down the airspace as a no fly national security risk zone.


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Old 11-09-2020, 02:17 AM   #5451
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Can’t believe I missed this

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Good grief. I know we've joked about it a lot in this thread, but it's actually starting to look like the Secret Service will have to go in there eventually and physically remove these a**holes from the White House. And while that would certainly be entertaining to watch, it's just sad that it might actually come to that.
Feel like it's becoming best case scenario. The "mainstream" right-wing media is turning on Trump. Little things like Fox calling Arizona for Biden prematurely and immediately calling Biden "President-elect" once called has Trump and his supporters seething. Murdoch was never a friend of Trump but he knows what sells and when to cut bait and they're cutting bait. The more laughable it becomes, the bigger the divide between the party and hopefully a real draining of the swamp getting rid of Trump and his allies.

While I should probably learn to stop giving the 70 million who voted for Trump the benefit of the doubt at all, there is going to be a divide. Trump's biggest supporters are literally calling for a civil war (See Arkansas Police Chief), the media most favourable to him are run by people calling for beheadings (See Steve Bannon), or being forced off Twitter so they can deny the holocaust and blame the Jews for everything (See Bitchute).

While the average Republican is turning into Fox News, seeing Fox and Friends express skepticism of Trump's claims and chances, they're going to be dissuaded from him. The more embarrassing it becomes and once/if Fox starts laughing at him like the rest of the world, the more the average Fox-viewer is going to start looking back fondly at the never-Trumpers. They've been in the boiling pot but a loss and some less "Trump is God" rhetoric is going to push them back to some sensibility, I hope.

The very limited amount that I have watched of Fox has them 'testing' their next strategy of cutting bait with Trump while keeping their base. They've already explained that people voted for Trump, not because they too were racists or believed his hateful rhetoric and idiotic lies, but that they were doing it despite his character flaws to fight the communists (socialists) as good Americans. Fox is going to tell them soon that they never really supported Trump and they'll believe it.

Meanwhile Trump's feverous supporters are standing back and standing by awaiting commands from Q. They're crazy. If a never-Trumper ends up the candidate, they aren't going to vote for him. Even the more-sane Trump supporters won't be pushed to go out and vote for a Mitt Romney when they realize that Biden didn't come to their house, take their guns and force them to wear a burqa in his four years as president.
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Old 11-09-2020, 06:13 AM   #5453
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Not even a day in office, and he barely announces the task force and Biden has a Covid vaccine!

I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see Trumps reaction.
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Old 11-09-2020, 06:52 AM   #5454
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His minions are all over Twitter giving Trump and Operation Warp Speed credit.

Only problem is that Pfizer had already come out and said they never took any money from Trump and had nothing to do with Warp Speed.
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Yeah I would love to hear the full story one day. My guess is that Trump put out the tweet about the press conference at the 'Four Seasons' without checking with anyone, and when staffers called the hotel they were told either a) everything was booked, or b) couldn't do it on short notice. So then they scrambled for something else named 'Four Seasons'

Its so freaking absurd...and hilarious.

There was a story in the NY Times that explained it. They had a hard time finding a location in Philadelphia due to the preponderance of Democrats. Several other Republican events in the city were heavily trolled, so they found a place in a Republican leaning suburb that happened to be Four Seasons Landscaping. The message was garbled when it was relayed to the White House who probably naturally assumed that Four Seasons must mean the hotel and tweeted it out.
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Feel like it's becoming best case scenario. The "mainstream" right-wing media is turning on Trump. Little things like Fox calling Arizona for Biden prematurely and immediately calling Biden "President-elect" once called has Trump and his supporters seething. Murdoch was never a friend of Trump but he knows what sells and when to cut bait and they're cutting bait. The more laughable it becomes, the bigger the divide between the party and hopefully a real draining of the swamp getting rid of Trump and his allies.

While I should probably learn to stop giving the 70 million who voted for Trump the benefit of the doubt at all, there is going to be a divide. Trump's biggest supporters are literally calling for a civil war (See Arkansas Police Chief), the media most favourable to him are run by people calling for beheadings (See Steve Bannon), or being forced off Twitter so they can deny the holocaust and blame the Jews for everything (See Bitchute).

While the average Republican is turning into Fox News, seeing Fox and Friends express skepticism of Trump's claims and chances, they're going to be dissuaded from him. The more embarrassing it becomes and once/if Fox starts laughing at him like the rest of the world, the more the average Fox-viewer is going to start looking back fondly at the never-Trumpers. They've been in the boiling pot but a loss and some less "Trump is God" rhetoric is going to push them back to some sensibility, I hope.

The very limited amount that I have watched of Fox has them 'testing' their next strategy of cutting bait with Trump while keeping their base. They've already explained that people voted for Trump, not because they too were racists or believed his hateful rhetoric and idiotic lies, but that they were doing it despite his character flaws to fight the communists (socialists) as good Americans. Fox is going to tell them soon that they never really supported Trump and they'll believe it.

Meanwhile Trump's feverous supporters are standing back and standing by awaiting commands from Q. They're crazy. If a never-Trumper ends up the candidate, they aren't going to vote for him. Even the more-sane Trump supporters won't be pushed to go out and vote for a Mitt Romney when they realize that Biden didn't come to their house, take their guns and force them to wear a burqa in his four years as president.
Trump supporters are leaving Fox and going to Newsmax which hasnt announced Biden as President elect, and have taken over spinning Trump as the great leader.

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There was a story in the NY Times that explained it. They had a hard time finding a location in Philadelphia due to the preponderance of Democrats. Several other Republican events in the city were heavily trolled, so they found a place in a Republican leaning suburb that happened to be Four Seasons Landscaping. The message was garbled when it was relayed to the White House who probably naturally assumed that Four Seasons must mean the hotel and tweeted it out.

Might have also been the only place reasonably far enough from where children might be.

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Trump supporters are leaving Fox and going to Newsmax which hasnt announced Biden as President elect, and have taken over spinning Trump as the great leader.
And soon it will be them leaving Twitter en masse for Bitchute now that Trump keeps getting "censored" and others like Bannon banned completely.

But that's staunch Trump supporters. A lot of the good ol' fashioned Republicans, along with the never-Trumpers, will stick with the mainstream right-wing media that will (hopefully) continue to turn on Trump. That's where I see the divide. The cult of Trump will become the fringe, again, listening to Alex Jones tell them about gay amphibians while not making noise in the Republican Party.

I see a similar divide with the Democrats in that the 'socialist' progressives wanting actual change after 4 years of too-moderate Biden.

I think the voter turnout will take quite a hit next election. The young progressives won't want to vote for another moderate candidate that likely wins (assuming Biden is one term), and without the rallying cry of getting out Trump, I don't see the enthusiasm towards voting. Likewise, without Trump to vote for, I don't see the basement racist trolls coming out to vote for the Republicans. I think we'll see two relatively moderate candidates and turnout closer to 50% back like we had in the 90s.

But then again, it could end up being AOC vs Don Jr.
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How does the lifetime of Secret Service protection work if you are in jail?
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