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Old 11-08-2020, 04:23 PM   #101
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while Trump loves a fight I doubt he has enjoyed a second of the last four years, he is an indolent lotus eater who's life has been little more than spaffing money on tasteless golden toilets and hookers, my guess is Trump is trying to work out a way to save face but never actually have to go back to 'public life'
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Trump is narcissistic, part of the sickness of narcissism is they believe they always have a chance. I don't see Trump leaving in any peaceful measure, he will make himself a martyr and continue to rile the right in tweets, going on Newsmax who welcome him and his radical right words. He may be out of White House by Jan 20th, but his supporters will still follow him. I just hope overtime those followers dont grow but dwindle away.

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Trump is narcissistic, part of the sickness of narcissism is they believe they always have a chance. I don't see Trump leaving in any peaceful measure, he will make himself a martyr and continue to rile the right in tweets, going on Newsmax who welcome him and his radical right words. He may be out of White House by Jan 20th, but his supporters will still follow him. I just hope overtime those followers dont grow but dwindle away.

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Old 11-09-2020, 02:08 AM   #105
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Him and his cronies absolutely 100% need to be held accountable. I cant believe some people are actually suggesting to let things be, let him simply fade into obscurity. A bunch of old rich white men in positions of power being allowed to get away with what they did would be such an "American" thing to do. That mistake was made after Bush v.2 and his administration weren't pursued for war crimes and here we are.

I don't believe it sets a bad precedent like some suggested. There's a difference between wanting to jail someone like Obama for not agreeing with his policies vs wanting to hold accountable a guy like Trump who clearly committed crimes while in office. While most of the world is relieved Biden won, there is still a lot of talk from other countries moving forward without being dependent on the US. Holding that administration accountable would go a long way to rebuilding that trust.

I too am relieved, but know full well the same damn thing can happen again in 4 years except this time with a GOP administration that is a lot more competent. What's to stop the next round of GOPs from simply reversing what Biden does and once again trying to consolidate power for their own personal gain? Going after Trump and his cronies would go a long way to relieving some of those concerns and would give a definitive statement to the world that what happened is not acceptable and steps will be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again.

There is precedent of other countries holding their politicians accountable. Just because it hurts his followers feelings doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. I would be disgusted if him and his cronies are allowed to walk away like nothing happened and would brace myself in 4 years for the second round of this BS.
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I just don't see the establishment letting anything happen to a former president in terms of criminal charges or jail, even one so unconventional and ####ty as this one.

They'll just hope he doesn't say too many stupid things and just dies early.

I mean it's pretty generally accepted the Bush Administration committed war crimes, and Americans on both sides just sorta ignore that and let him paint his lil paintings.
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Old 11-09-2020, 09:19 AM   #108
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Him and his cronies absolutely 100% need to be held accountable. I cant believe some people are actually suggesting to let things be, let him simply fade into obscurity. A bunch of old rich white men in positions of power being allowed to get away with what they did would be such an "American" thing to do. That mistake was made after Bush v.2 and his administration weren't pursued for war crimes and here we are.

I don't believe it sets a bad precedent like some suggested. There's a difference between wanting to jail someone like Obama for not agreeing with his policies vs wanting to hold accountable a guy like Trump who clearly committed crimes while in office. While most of the world is relieved Biden won, there is still a lot of talk from other countries moving forward without being dependent on the US. Holding that administration accountable would go a long way to rebuilding that trust.

I too am relieved, but know full well the same damn thing can happen again in 4 years except this time with a GOP administration that is a lot more competent. What's to stop the next round of GOPs from simply reversing what Biden does and once again trying to consolidate power for their own personal gain? Going after Trump and his cronies would go a long way to relieving some of those concerns and would give a definitive statement to the world that what happened is not acceptable and steps will be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again.

There is precedent of other countries holding their politicians accountable. Just because it hurts his followers feelings doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. I would be disgusted if him and his cronies are allowed to walk away like nothing happened and would brace myself in 4 years for the second round of this BS.
While I absolutely agree with you fundamentally, I'm not sure if that is practical. How do you go after someone who has 47.5% of America's support?

America is divided. You can add if's, and's, and but's; At the end of the day, it just is. Is going after Trump going to help unify America? I would think it would do just the opposite.

I would 100% be happy if they prosecute that dirtbag to the FULL extent of the law, but I don't think it will help the U.S. heal and move forward. I think it will do the opposite.
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I just don't see the establishment letting anything happen to a former president in terms of criminal charges or jail, even one so unconventional and ####ty as this one.

They'll just hope he doesn't say too many stupid things and just dies early.

I mean it's pretty generally accepted the Bush Administration committed war crimes, and Americans on both sides just sorta ignore that and let him paint his lil paintings.
I agree regarding crimes Trump committed while in office, but as I understand it, there are numerous pending indictments at the state level for stuff he had done prior to being elected President. I am guessing these are charges he will still be required to answer for.

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The DoJ needs to fully investigate everything, even if he pre-pardons, so that the extent of his crimes and failures are exposed. I don't see much actual value to him being behind bars, even from NY state charges, but where I do see value is in a plea-deal where he gets a full pardon in exchange for being deposed under oath, with no limits on areas of questioning. And no plea deals for anyone else. Make sure that every possible enabler sees jail time, because this is ultimately the bigger failing that needs to be corrected: that so many people were willing to aid and enable him.

If reports about his debts are true, then his real-estate empire is going to collapse. I could definitely see an attempted pivot to being a media mogul. Newsmax or OANN licenses his name, gives him a major stake in the company, and he and his family get as much programming to fill as they want. His network will have their own presidential candidate, whether it's Trump or Jr. or Ivanka or some other loyalist, as well as a stable of down-ballot candidates that they use to primary other Republicans. They know that the big money is campaign donor money, so that's where they want to be. If the Trump candidate does not get the Republican nomination, I could see them doing a third party run, just to keep the money flowing.
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We all know this election "scandal" in Trumps head will go no where, so what happens now?

If reports are true that he owes up to a $billion to creditors do these creditors call the loans now that he can't use the presidency as his personal muscle?

And of course there's his mountain of legal woes awaiting him.

Has a former president ever been jailed? will he be the first?
Trump will be vindicated. Not only will he win, he will win a large majority. All the voter fraud will be exposed. Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania will all be RED.

Trump will expose the Dominion electronic voting system. The Dominion system magically has been used in Canada as well, including in the leadership voting for CPC and Liberal Parties of Canada. Used in Canadian elections as well. Don't believe me? Google it, its all there in plain view, or keep your head in the sand. When the fraud comes out, will/should we question our own election integrity? Absolutely!

Supreme Court cannot legally get involved in the federal election until 10 days after the election. Nov 13. This will go all the way up to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative leaning. The legislatures in each of these states is Republican, and the legislatures will make sure this goes to the Supreme Court. Legislatures decide how elections are run, not governors.

Democrats/Liberals will cry, like always, use terrorist groups BLM and Antifa to incite massive violence and unrest when the truth comes out.

The media doesn't decide who wins the election. Please refer to Gore/Bush in 2000. The media declared Gore the winner, however 37 days
later, Bush ended up winning after it went to the Supreme Court. Google it.

Biden and many congressman, senators, etc. will be arrested (both Republican and Democrat).

For 4 years all we have heard about is how "Russia interfered in elections." Now, this election wasn't interfered with? Shouldn't there be transparency on the voting if there is nothing to hide? The irony of it all is hilarious. Funny enough, magically the voting has stopped? How can it be declared, by the media if it is not over? Do you not think it is a little bit weird that we are on day 6, and magically they are still "counting"?

Suggestion, turn off your TV and think for yourself. Read a little bit on history, instead of the stupidity in this forum.

Enjoy the fireworks, I know I will.

Prediction: Trump is still the President until January 2021, and will continue to be thereafter.
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Despite what a lot of people want, there's a zero percent chance Trump goes to jail or actually gets any punishment for anything that has happened in the past 4 years. That's wishful thinking on the side of people who dislike him.
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Trump will be vindicated. Not only will he win, he will win a large majority. All the voter fraud will be exposed. Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania will all be RED.

Trump will expose the Dominion electronic voting system. The Dominion system magically has been used in Canada as well, including in the leadership voting for CPC and Liberal Parties of Canada. Used in Canadian elections as well. Don't believe me? Google it, its all there in plain view, or keep your head in the sand. When the fraud comes out, will/should we question our own election integrity? Absolutely!

Supreme Court cannot legally get involved in the federal election until 10 days after the election. Nov 13. This will go all the way up to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative leaning. The legislatures in each of these states is Republican, and the legislatures will make sure this goes to the Supreme Court. Legislatures decide how elections are run, not governors.

Democrats/Liberals will cry, like always, use terrorist groups BLM and Antifa to incite massive violence and unrest when the truth comes out.

The media doesn't decide who wins the election. Please refer to Gore/Bush in 2000. The media declared Gore the winner, however 37 days
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Biden and many congressman, senators, etc. will be arrested (both Republican and Democrat).

For 4 years all we have heard about is how "Russia interfered in elections." Now, this election wasn't interfered with? Shouldn't there be transparency on the voting if there is nothing to hide? The irony of it all is hilarious. Funny enough, magically the voting has stopped? How can it be declared, by the media if it is not over? Do you not think it is a little bit weird that we are on day 6, and magically they are still "counting"?

Suggestion, turn off your TV and think for yourself. Read a little bit on history, instead of the stupidity in this forum.

Enjoy the fireworks, I know I will.

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Your counter point is brilliant.
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I have to agree with him though, there's no doubt IMO that there was widespread voter fraud this election. I'm sure this is a bit every election just not as prominent as this time
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Your counter point is brilliant.
I just assumed that with the lack of facts and outrageous claims, you were obviously being sarcastic. Oops.
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Just curious as to what charge would Trump go to jail for exactly?
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I have to agree with him though, there's no doubt IMO that there was widespread voter fraud this election. I'm sure this is a bit every election just not as prominent as this time
No doubt, in your opinion eh? How’d you arrive there?
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