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Old 11-08-2020, 10:38 AM   #81
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Not that I disagree totally but...


And to save time... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ne...of-presidents/
Big problem with this graphic is that the top left one is a lie.

And not to minimize the way other leaders have taken personal benefit from the office, but for the President of a $7trillion/year organization to gain $3M/year in net worth doesn't exactly seem crazy to me, Especially when you consider the fact that they have no opportunity to retain the job after 8 years, and having had the job seriously limits the prospects and opportunities they can pursue in the future, Obama can't exactly go back to teaching law now.

If you want good leaders in such a demanding position those people are going to make enough money that they, their children and their grandchildren will liver very comfortably.

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Old 11-08-2020, 11:10 AM   #82
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He's not as rich as he says he is, but his stake in the two buildings I mentioned is worth a few hundred million (after deducting the mortgages on them)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blo...nado-sale-plan
we know he has over 400 million in debt, he isnt rich he has multi millions in bad debt he staves off with the few millions his empire makes
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I think we’d be surprised how wealthy Trump isn’t.

I’m sure he’s rolling in debt (more than we’ve been told) and those debtors will come calling.
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Lot of folks are rich on paper, but when push comes to shove, they're broker than broke. It's all a carefully constructed mirage, especially in Trump's case.
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I think we’d be surprised how wealthy Trump isn’t.

I’m sure he’s rolling in debt (more than we’ve been told) and those debtors will come calling.
This is why I assume - and we'll probably never know - that the tens of millions in grifted money that has accrued to the Trump clan over the past four years has all gone to companies controlled by his children. If he goes bankrupt again, whatever, no big deal, there's always money in the banana stand.
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Old 11-08-2020, 11:55 AM   #86
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And to save time... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ne...of-presidents/
Clinton hasn't been in office in 20 years. So irrelevant.
Obama away for 4 years, inked 2 huge book deals and a lucrative Netflix show. What a crook.

Trump is still in office and his net worth is unknown.
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I wonder if he going to do the traditional "$500k an appearance" speaking tour that's just a thinly veiled excuse for him to collect his corruption money from all the big money groups he pandered to.
This makes the most sense.

He probably got addicted to having rallies and have people worship him, speaking deals to friendly venues will fill that void. He can air his grievances over and over until the end of his days.

Just a question of how many opportunities are there when everyone knows he doesn't have anything meaningful to speak about, just a couple of hours of random ranting.
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This thread is some kind of weird homophobic revenge porn thread, hey.
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Leave us alone, we're just debating what to do with a guy that's so much smarter than all of us.
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This thread is some kind of weird homophobic revenge porn thread, hey.

How so? Haven’t seen a “drop the soap in the shower” post, if that’s what you’re implying by that.
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Old 11-08-2020, 12:55 PM   #91
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Clinton hasn't been in office in 20 years. So irrelevant.
Obama away for 4 years, inked 2 huge book deals and a lucrative Netflix show. What a crook.

Trump is still in office and his net worth is unknown.

Yeah, and that $500 K per appearance speaking tour is a reasonable contributor to his wealth .

Quick calculation - he pretty filled the dome. Say 15 000 attendees at 100 bucks average per head - that’s $1.5 million top line and plenty of money to go to the venue / promoters

The Canada tour alone could have netted Obama a few million

Those graphics are designed to outrage people who are looking for a reason to be outraged rather than thinking
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How so? Haven’t seen a “drop the soap in the shower” post, if that’s what you’re implying by that.
Been a few offside comments about knee pads and prison and the like.
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If Bill Clinton was a corrupt politician how did he only have a net worth of 700K when he had been the governor of Arkansas for 12 years?
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Been a few offside comments about knee pads and prison and the like.
One post about knee pads, referring to Pence? There’s more posts about Trump’s library.

That’s a pretty low bar to call a thread homophobic even for me. I know you enjoy stirring up reactions, but that’s a little weak don’t you think?
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Clinton hasn't been in office in 20 years. So irrelevant.
Obama away for 4 years, inked 2 huge book deals and a lucrative Netflix show. What a crook.

Trump is still in office and his net worth is unknown.
I kind of love that graph, it's such nonsense. None of the numbers are accurate and even if the numbers were accurate they still wouldn't actually support the claim that's made about the Clintons and the Obama's, and even if they did support that claim, it still wouldn't make sense to throw Trumps numbers in there, because there's no logic that says a crook can't lose money.

It also manages to be quite sexist definitely without realizing it. Because sure, Barack Obama is worth about 40M, but Michelle is actually the big earner of the family, with over 100M. (They also entered the White House with an estimated 1.3M, not 3M.) (Michelle's memoir "Becoming" is I think the biggest seller out of all of their books, it's really a massive success, among the bestselling memoirs of all times). S

Same with the Clintons, Hillary is the richer one with over 120M just on her own. Who ever put that graph together clearly didn't consider the possibility that the wives are something more than extensions of their husbands, they couldn't possibly have a personal net worth that's significant. Oops.

Trumps numbers obviously are a complete asspull.
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One post about knee pads, referring to Pence? There’s more posts about Trump’s library.

That’s a pretty low bar to call a thread homophobic even for me. I know you enjoy stirring up reactions, but that’s a little weak don’t you think?
I’m just a furious little guy today. We need a new mattress.
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https://epl.bibliocommons.com/list/s...F1AXJ0zYqzbL-Q

I’m not sure if the link will work. Edmonton Public Library book list for after you have made yourself great again.
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In the next couple weeks Trump will go to mar-a-Lago and just never return to the White House. His family and everyone else will quietly walk away, leaving the White House to the Biden transition team and they’ll just run things like normal humans.

As for what actually happens to Trump...heart attack within the next couple years.
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I’m just a furious little guy today. We need a new mattress.

Seems like a reasonable excuse to call people homophobic.
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