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Old 11-04-2020, 01:53 PM   #2141
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I still don't get how Florida can count 10 million ballots so quickly and we're not almost 24 hours later and other states can't get their ##### figured out.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:53 PM   #2142
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Is WI the only state to be called today? Was hoping at least 2-3 would have been called by now.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:53 PM   #2143
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Florida started counting those ballots 3 weeks ago. Pennsylvania started last night at 8pm.
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That's right out of the Bush campaign's 2000 strategy to take Florida. The infamous "Brooks Brothers Riot" if people remember. This time they're not quite as well dressed, nor look quite as smart.
They don't look like Republican operatives this time. Just a grassroots rabble. Potentially more dangerous though in the time of social media, as it could go viral and draw further protesters to the mob very quickly. They should have more police on scene.
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No guys, they totally won PA, Eric (the dumbest one) said so!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324086031591886850

Oops Kayleigh getting in on that action now

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324086828153057281
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:55 PM   #2146
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Imagine being known as the dumb Trump. It's almost an accomplishment.
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I still don't get how Florida can count 10 million ballots so quickly and we're not almost 24 hours later and other states can't get their ##### figured out.
it's because some states are not allowed to start counting mail-in ballots until election day, therefore it takes them longer.
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I still don't get how Florida can count 10 million ballots so quickly and we're not almost 24 hours later and other states can't get their ##### figured out.
Florida law allows them to count ballots as they're received, i.e., pre election day. That's not the case in all states (in part, if I'm not mistaken, due to some shady Republican doings at the state level). Pennsylvania is the worst of these. They pretty much start opening envelopes only when the in person voting is wrapping up.
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Imagine being known as the dumb Trump. It's almost an accomplishment.
He's the Fredo of the new millennium
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might as well call Michigan. Biden's up by 61k already.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:59 PM   #2151
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Not really sure what you're talking about, my point was that voting is already restricted based on age. You can argue how valid age-based restrictions are, but comparing it to restrictions based on mental health is wonky.

Isn't your post, suggesting you don't care if they move it to 21 (thus removing the right to vote for people 18, 19, or 20) just the same as some arbitrary number in the 80s or 90s? You don't care if they remove it from young people, but you find it unconscionable to remove it from very older people? That doesn't make sense.

I think it's valid that people who will experience the majority of an upcoming presidential term as tax-paying adults should be able to vote.
No, you completely missed the point.

All I said about 18 is that there has to be an entry point (I am fairly sure you would agree that 8 year olds shouldn't be granted that right, no?). You could argue that it should be 16, or 17, or 18, or 21. I am good with 18, personally, but regardless, there has to be an entry point. Voting is a right for adults.

That is nothing like removing that right for a particular group of adults.

It is a fundamental tenet of democracy that all (adult) citizens should have the same right to vote, or you don't have a democracy. And I am not going to derail this thread any more by responding any more to it.
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Florida law allows them to count ballots as they're received, i.e., pre election day. That's not the case in all states (in part, if I'm not mistaken, due to some shady Republican doings at the state level). Pennsylvania is the worst of these. They pretty much start opening envelopes only when the in person voting is wrapping up.
Democrats in Pennsylvania asked for a system similar to Florida but state Republicans denied the request and then went the other way to make it more restrictive.
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Imagine being known as the dumb Trump. It's almost an accomplishment.
I watched a few seasons of Celebrity Apprentice back in the day and even then it was clear Eric Trump had the IQ of a potato.
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Biden going to speak soon
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:02 PM   #2155
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2:00 PM. Biden is closing in Pennsylvania but the runway is shortening, too. The good news is both Philadelphia and Allegheny are sub-80% reported. This could be tight.

Georgia
410,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 63% of them.
358,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 62% of them.

Michigan
1,590,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 60% of them.
453,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 47% of them.
340,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 45% of them.
280,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 40% of them.

North Carolina (Unchanged)
287,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 64% of them.

Pennsylvania
1,870,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 69% of them.
1,500,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 68% of them.
1,440,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 66% of them.
1,200,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 65% of them.

Wisconsin
650,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 60% of them.
102,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 40% of them.
Biden wins!

Nevada
194,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 49% of them.

Arizona (Likely already won by Biden)
450,000 votes outstanding. Biden needs 40% of them.
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I watched a few seasons of Celebrity Apprentice back in the day and even then it was clear Eric Trump had the IQ of a potato.
Colbert ripping on Eric is always a high point for me.
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i may be out of thanks soon.. need to cast my votes wisely!
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For all his faults, Punished Nate has a good point here

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324075434942881792
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Nevada should be called soon, just waiting on the vegas area
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I still don't get how Florida can count 10 million ballots so quickly and we're not almost 24 hours later and other states can't get their ##### figured out.
In most states, election officials could start the arduous process that goes into counting mail votes many days before Election Day, but in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, officials had their hands tied by state laws that did not allow for such preparation.

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