[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Sorry, what exactly was in Biden's platform that wouldn't appeal to Republicans again? That was the whole game plan.

there are some that have been mentioned here.


oil (green deal)
going back to ACA, adding public option (republicans hate it)
raising minimum wage
affirmative action (btw proposition 16 failed in California)
china
taxes
immigration, daca

and to some the constant bashing (these are not biden things)

impeachment
kavanaugh and barrett
threatening to pack the court

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Firebot

It has more to with with half of Americans rejecting Democrat ideologies than it is about wanting Trump.

Democrats made it a 'elect someone other than Trump' election, but the problem is, they are still Democrats with Democrat ideologies that got Trump elected as a protest vote to begin with.

It's hard to win with non-conservative ideas when the conservatives have become so good at vote blocking Democrats.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Has Dear Leader or the WH said anything today?

LOL.
Try his twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


Of course he's on full blast mode, he's about to lose an election.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

It's not the first time a dead man has been elected. His name stays on the ballot because he was registered. People just vote blindly for the (R) or the (D). It's a good example of how uninformed or flat out partisan the American voter is.

This is why that quote about there being a problem with the Americans themselves is the answer to all this. Many are fully not informed when they vote, and are happy to vote based on gut feelings and false rhetoric. Happens all the time.

Apologies if this is an embarrassingly ignorant question but: if I'm a Republican in that district, wouldn't I strategically want to vote for the dead Republican candidate (as opposed to the Democrat candidate) in order to at least force a special election?

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

If only there was some way to click on the article instead of just reading headlines.

That would be a time to live in.

[dino7c]

If it came down to one State Trump might have more traction but he is telling them to stop counting in some places and keep counting elsewhere

Pretty obvious both sides knew where the numbers where last night based on their speeches

[Ozy_Flame]

Republicans get to pick a replacement.

In some ways, that's the best thing a Republican could vote for.

That said, I bet 95% of those that voted for him didn't know he was dead.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

there are some that have been mentioned here.


oil (green deal)
going back to ACA, adding public option (republicans hate it)
raising minimum wage
affirmative action (btw proposition 16 failed in California)

china
taxes
immigration, daca



and to some the constant bashing (these are not biden things)

impeachment
kavanaugh and barrett
threatening to pack the court

threatening to

Exit polling indicates that a vast majority of voters want development of green energy policy.

Expanding ACA may not be popular, but it's better than socialized medicine across the board for Republicans.

Florida just voted to raise the minimum wage overwhelmingly while simultaneously voting in Donald Trump.

Affirmative action is still a grievance? I cannot even think of a single time it was brought up during the election cycle.

Republicans are winning the SCOTUS battle and Biden was not in favor of expanding the court. He had no comment on any of the nominated and confirmed justices under Trump.

So...you just pulled this out of your butt, eh?

[metallicat]

His tweets seem to be getting flagged and hidden. What a sham the USA is when the president can act this way for four years.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The problem is never the voter. Right away, that's the wrong starting point for an argument.

Customer is always right....
Yeah in this election it's all about the voters. You can't appeal to these deplorables. 65 million of them voted for a science denying, racist, rapist!

Biden was the only democrat who could have won this election. Imagine if it was Bernie?

[Senator Clay Davis]

"Strategy for a win" = Last cheating gasp

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324055172809707522

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Republicans get to pick a replacement.

In some ways, that's the best thing a Republican could vote for.

That said, I bet 95% of those that voted for him didn't know he was dead.

Totally, it happens here too...I know so many people that vote blue no matter what. Disabled people living on government programs.

For the record I lean right on most issues, its just ridiculous when people vote blindly against their own interests.

[comrade]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Apologies if this is an embarrassingly ignorant question but: if I'm a Republican in that district, wouldn't I strategically want to vote for the dead Republican candidate (as opposed to the Democrat candidate) in order to at least force a special election?

This is the actual calculus, but many posters here would rather fantasize that voters are "stupid" than actually understand why they don't vote the preferred way.

[Duruss]

I am disappointed in some of you. This was ALWAYS going to be a close election: incumbent advantage, voter suppression, massive disinformation campaigns, and the out right election tampering/postal service.

We got too caught up in dreams of a landslide reputation of Trumpism, but all the evidence that it will be a long hard slog has been present for some time. But the red haze didn't even last the night, so that was nice imo.

[troutman]

Gideon conceded to Collins in Maine.

Peters is losing in Michigan. Update - he is slightly ahead now.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LOL.
Try his twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


Of course he's on full blast mode, he's about to lose an election.

He goes on about fake news yet half of his tweets on the last day have been pulled for inaccuracy.

Who's peddling fake news again?

So glad twitter is finally keeping him in check.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Customer is always right....
Yeah in this election it's all about the voters. You can't appeal to these deplorables. 65 million of them voted for a science denying, racist, rapist!

Biden was the only democrat who could have won this election. Imagine if it was Bernie?

You can argue 65 million voted against cancel culture and identity politics.

There are some ideologies that simply are against what people wish. Trump got the Latino vote in Florida for instance. They voted someone who built a wall to keep Mexicans out. Failing to understand the why is a critical Democrat failure.

This disenfranchising of a demographic of your own population is precisely why 2016 got Trump elected and why he almost won again.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Exit polling indicates that a vast majority of voters want development of green energy policy.

Expanding ACA may not be popular, but it's better than socialized medicine across the board for Republicans.

Florida just voted to raise the minimum wage overwhelmingly while simultaneously voting in Donald Trump.

Affirmative action is still a grievance? I cannot even think of a single time it was brought up during the election cycle.

Republicans are winning the SCOTUS battle and Biden was not in favor of expanding the court. He had no comment on any of the nominated and confirmed justices under Trump.

So...you just pulled this out of your butt, eh?

I just said they are possible issues to some Republican, obviously not enough at the Democrats will win.

Green deal is not popular to oil companies/jobs, not in the way it was presented in the debate
ACA is unpopular to some, some like their insurance, yes, the rich upper class.
Minimum wage went up to $10 in Florida, they were talking $15 nationwide
Affirmative action is still a grievance, that's why there are propositions
And Biden has no interest in expending the court but what if he's pressured by his party?


Yes, I admit these are smoking guns, but it's what Republicans view as problems.

[Kybosh]

We should all just accept and understand that significant portions of the USA wants what Trump is selling. This is a different country with different core values.

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

He goes on about fake news yet half of his tweets on the last day have been pulled for inaccuracy.

Who's peddling fake news again?

So glad twitter is finally keeping him in check.

It's easier for them when he's not going to be the sitting President.