I do find it hilarious that Democrats went for the "courting moderate" Republicans strategy again, and again it looks like it burned them. They'll win the White House but how they can't seem to understand that that strategy is inherently useless to them is beyond me.
What will they argue if it’s 270-268 and Biden didn’t rely on late arriving votes?
The legality of the absentee/mail-in ballots and then fact that they were counted after election day had officially come to an end (midnight November 3rd, 2020). They have framed and will likely argue only ballots in the system by the end of November 3rd should count, so anything after that does not count. It's legal bull####, but you are talking about Republicans and Donald Trump, and we know they are full of incredible sums of bull####.
Donald Trump will remain president until his term is officially ended by processes outlined in the constitution of the United States. Any contest that is challenged in court leaves the incumbent in place and representative of their office until those challenges are completed. So a contested 270-268 election will leave the winner in the wings waiting for the court decision. Ask Al Franken about his first term as a senator. He had to wait until July (seven months) before he was able to take his seat because of the legal challenge. This is real, so please don't be so dismissive about something that Trump has stated he will use if he has to.
A constitutional expert can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is Trump's term is definitively over on Inauguration Day no matter what happens. If the Electoral College hasn't selected a president by that date, then an interim president is chosen by the House (Democrat-controlled). He may eventually be sworn in to a second term, but he doesn't get to stay on as president while challenges work their way through the courts. Is that correct?
This is real, so please don't be so dismissive about something that Trump has stated he will use if he has to.
As I said, I am dismissive of you phrasing it as if a 100% Trump victory occurs in a Biden 270-268 regardless of the conditions that resulted in that score.
A constitutional expert can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is Trump's term is definitively over on Inauguration Day no matter what happens. If the Electoral College hasn't selected a president by that date, then an interim president is chosen by the House (Democrat-controlled). He may eventually be sworn in to a second term, but he doesn't get to stay on as president while challenges work their way through the courts. Is that correct?
Term ends period.
Who is in charge in the meantime is more of a question mark. I'm not entirely certain who runs the show in the interim, but yes the term 100% ends.
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I do find it hilarious that Democrats went for the "courting moderate" Republicans strategy again, and again it looks like it burned them. They'll win the White House but how they can't seem to understand that that strategy is inherently useless to them is beyond me.
Don't tell that to the long-headed posters who somehow believe the Democrats went too far left, too hard on identity politics, and weren't supported because of "cancel culture."
Don't tell that to the long-headed posters who somehow believe the Democrats went too far left, too hard on identity politics, and weren't supported because of "cancel culture."
I actually agree with 2/3 of those things. The wine cave Dems screaming about SC nominations while there are millions of people out of jobs and wondering how they're going to pay rent was just a perfect encapsulation of how out of the touch the Demcoratic elite is with average Americans.
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Yeah, there's a reason that the US is one of the older current democracies in the world, has done more to spread and champion democracy than any other nation, and yet no other country has ever looked at the US and said 'yeah, this model makes sense, we'll use it to base our our democracy on.'
Yeah, there's a reason that the US is one of the older current democracies in the world, has done more to spread and champion democracy than any other nation, and yet no other country has ever looked at the US and said 'yeah, this model makes sense, we'll use it to base our our democracy on.'
haha I know eh?
I used to say "I love the Electoral College for three reasons: (1) it's complicated; (2) I understand it; and (3) it's NOT mine!"
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A further left Democrat would have gotten dummied.
The US isn't going to lurch to the left.
It's not really left vs right, but more the Democrats not resonating with the working class like they used to. I mean, there's a reason that Trump can win Florida on the same ballot where a $15 minimum wage passed by over 20 points.
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Mr. Trump is a historic president: the first president to say his political opponent (Joe Biden), his opponent’s family (Hunter Biden), his predecessor (Barack Obama) and his former opponent (Hillary Clinton) should all be jailed. He is the first president to be named as “Individual-1” in a federal criminal probe. He is the first president whose former campaign managers were all arrested for different crimes. He is the first president to be impeached for soliciting aid from a foreign state (Ukraine), the first to win an election with help from illicit foreign aid (in 2016 from Russia), and the first to pressure foreign leaders for dirt on the rival he baselessly thought should be imprisoned.
The logic behind this for Republican voters makes my head and heart hurt. Trump is demonstrably an awful human and corrupt as hell, and it just doesn't matter.
Even if Biden eeks out a win, this doesn't mean much in my mind. Nothing will move forward with evil incarnate Mitch McConnel blocking everything in the senate.
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