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11-03-2020, 08:32 PM
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#861
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Originally Posted by V
So is Arizona going blue? It looks good.
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It looks almost exactly like Ohio did - big win for Biden in the early / absentee vote that came in first, and the lead started shrinking as in-person votes were counted. Now, Ohio and Arizona have almost nothing in common, so maybe the lead will shrink slower and Trump won't be able to catch up. But it's too early to be getting too optimistic.
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11-03-2020, 08:33 PM
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#862
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Still think Iowa goes Republican but the early returns are promising for Biden. A 50 point lead in Johnson county and he leads statewide by almost 80,000 votes and Polk county is not even reporting yet. This could get interesting. Too early to tell for sure but it could get interesting. I’ll keep an eye on it.
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11-03-2020, 08:34 PM
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#863
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Either way these results just show how horrible the U.S truly is.
The fact that An openly racist and despicable human being is even this close to being re-elected just shows how broken that country is.
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11-03-2020, 08:35 PM
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#864
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
It may be difficult for Canadians to fathom, but many Americans fear socialism more than they fear things like racism and bigotry.
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Oh for sure, I work in agriculture and deal with a lot of Americans and some truly have a distrust of government. Part of the reason gun culture is so entrenched I think. I mostly talk to Republicans and I am not sure what Trump would need to do make them switch over to Democrats.
I will never forget when I was talking to a guy who was worth millions and said he owns guns so he can fight back when the government comes for him. That idea is the fringe in Canada but not uncommon in the US.
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11-03-2020, 08:35 PM
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#865
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Yamer
I'm nervous, but isn't what's going on right now now pretty well predicted? Early red wave, mail-ins counted over days, with no surprise flipped states? Trump got the state he absolutely had to have (Florida), and Biden has multiple avenues to President without the big surprises?
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I think the expectation was the mail in votes would heavily favor Biden, but now that they're counted and they are also counting the votes from today Trump is pulling ahead in some important states.
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11-03-2020, 08:35 PM
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#866
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
I'm nervous, but isn't what's going on right now now pretty well predicted? Early red wave, mail-ins counted over days, with no surprise flipped states? Trump got the state he absolutely had to have (Florida), and Biden has multiple avenues to President without the big surprises?
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Yeah there is a reason the gop is/was? trying to nullify the mail in votes and most people predicted an election night trump win with the Democrats taking it in the coming days once mail in voting is counted
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11-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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#867
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I have been trying to understand all this:
1. Each state has different number of electoral votes
2. The popular vote in each state is what matters and goes to either Biden or Trump? The winner gets those electoral votes?
Does that seem right?
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11-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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#868
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11-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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#869
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Location: North Vancouver
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Originally Posted by nik-
I still expect a solid Biden win at the end of this, but the numbers Trump is still getting is incredible.
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Americans are so divided these days, it's almost like they're two separate countries at this point. It's incredibly sad and disappointing. My family lived down there for a few years in the 80s, and it was a very different place back then. Your friends and neighbors didn't give a crap whether you voted Republican or Democrat, and the feeling was that it was generally a united country with most people getting along with each other, at least from what my parents and I remember. Politics was never as divisive as it is now.
I still have a lot of friends and extended family down there (all Democrat supporters), and they tell me that the level of anxiety and overall sadness they're feeling about the direction that country is headed under Trump have reached peak levels. A good buddy of mine from Portland is seriously considering moving his family to Canada if the Dems lose, mostly because he doesn't want his kids to grow up in Trump's version of America.
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11-03-2020, 08:37 PM
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#870
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Originally Posted by keenan87
I have been trying to understand all this:
1. Each state has different number of electoral votes
2. The popular vote in each state is what matters and goes to either Biden or Trump? The winner gets those electoral votes?
Does that seem right?
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Yes! But not all states decide their electoral votes that way..
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11-03-2020, 08:37 PM
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#871
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Philadelphia is only reporting 12% right now and no mail in ballots
Relax on Pennsylvania
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11-03-2020, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Yamer
I'm nervous, but isn't what's going on right now now pretty well predicted? Early red wave, mail-ins counted over days, with no surprise flipped states? Trump got the state he absolutely had to have (Florida), and Biden has multiple avenues to President without the big surprises?
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Yes, but the results are still poorer than expected. It's less about panicking and more about being depressed that those of us who had some less than rosy predictions about how tonight was going to go are so far being vindicated.
We'll see if the most important part of those pessimistic predictions plays out, which is Trump declaring victory and then attempting to stop ballot counting in states he's leading in by night's end. But so far, it looks like that outcome will end up being in play.
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11-03-2020, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Looch City
You should check your betting sites again bud.
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Trump at -800. Wow.
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/presi...cordionBets301
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11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
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Had an idea!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I have been trying to understand all this:
1. Each state has different number of electoral votes
2. The popular vote in each state is what matters and goes to either Biden or Trump? The winner gets those electoral votes?
Does that seem right?
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I think some states can split up their electoral votes?
But yeah, you're more or less right.
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11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
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11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
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This is going to play out exactly as I thought. The night will end with a tight race or a Trump lead, the mail ins will be counted over the next few days giving Biden a few of those battlegrounds to hand him the win and Trump is going to cry foul. Chaos will break out. This is gonna be a ####show.
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11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I have been trying to understand all this:
1. Each state has different number of electoral votes
2. The popular vote in each state is what matters and goes to either Biden or Trump? The winner gets those electoral votes?
Does that seem right?
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Yep, its kinda crazy
you win 99-1 or 51-49 you get the same electoral votes
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11-03-2020, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
It looks almost exactly like Ohio did - big win for Biden in the early / absentee vote that came in first, and the lead started shrinking as in-person votes were counted. Now, Ohio and Arizona have almost nothing in common, so maybe the lead will shrink slower and Trump won't be able to catch up. But it's too early to be getting too optimistic.
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There is one pretty important difference in that so much of the population of Arizona is in Maricopa county. The fact that Biden leads there by 10 with 70% of precincts reporting is huge—Trump won Maricopa county by 3% in 2016. Even if that lead shrinks a bit it’s hard to fathom Trump coming anywhere close to his 2016 levels. And there should be less of a “mail in vote” mirage in Arizona because it’s a red state where most voters have been voting by mail for years and years.
Biden will also need to win Pima county and those results are only starting to trickle in (at least where I’m looking). If he wins Pima and Maricopa there probably aren’t enough votes left in the rural counties for Trump to mount a comeback.
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11-03-2020, 08:39 PM
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#879
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
The real money is betting on 269-269. It's far more possible now then it was.
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Veep called it. Lol
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11-03-2020, 08:39 PM
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#880
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
This is going to play out exactly as I thought. The night will end with a tight race or a Trump lead, the mail ins will be counted over the next few days giving Biden a few of those battlegrounds to hand him the win and Trump is going to cry foul. Chaos will break out. This is gonna be a ####show.
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How many of the battleground states will that actually happen in though? Sounds like just Michigan and Pennsylvania. Lots of states are reporting mail ins already.
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