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Old 10-31-2020, 03:12 PM   #8461
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If you can vote for a guy like Trump (corrupt, racist, fascist, narcissist) just to get lower taxes then you are deplorable in my book. How can you ignore all of the awful things he does, and is?

Take a cue from the Lincoln Project and get rid of Trump and work on making the next Republican candidate a decent person who wants lower taxes and I might respect you. Until then, I say #### all Trump supporters.
Preach.



Wake the #### up and look at all the shady, incompetent #### you're overlooking, and then hang your head in shame and do better. We'll respect you for that at least. You can be pro-republican/right wing ideals and still not support this clown.

My dad leans about as far right as a person can and he recognizes Trump is a complete idiot and wants him gone as much as anybody. I have immense respect for that.

If he can see it, then you can. Wake. The. ####. Up.

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I think if he types it all out one more time we'll finally get his point of view.
"THEYRE BOTH TERRIBLE...buuut gun to my head i'd vote for Trump."
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If that's the case, why aren't laws struck down the nanosecond the majority flips? Have respect for the court and it's decisions.
You have no idea what you're even talking about. Trump doesn't need to do what you're suggesting to seize/keep power, which is what we're taking about. So, enough with the questions.

Also, don't tell me who to have respect for, especially from your very rube-esque position, thanks.
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Speaking of ‘interesting’....

If haven’t seen it myself, yet if the context is as you describe Corsi, it is actually the fake news Trump blathers about. I don’t like seeing that, there is enough despicable actual news, it doesn’t help to misquote or create things that aren’t accurate.

Of course, again, if your interpretation of the context is correct.
Well, it's tough because Trump uses it as such a blanket term for anything that doesn't fluff his taint, but you're right. This kind of stuff isn't helping at all. The same thing happened with the "blank" book on the GOP's health care work based on a selective photo.

If you believe you're better than him then act like it.
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Trump is convinced he will be leading at the end of election night and the late votes will "steal it"

The problem with his entire plan is that he will be losing at the end of the night on the third...block away jackass
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Again just Trump the narcissist talking out of his ass. There us nobody that is going to save. Supreme court judges, gop stooges or not, are not going to throw away the legacy of the high court to save a crook. There is still honor in that branch.

You are so naive. ACB in particular is completely unfit to be a Supreme Court justice. She has no experience, no trial experience, and boasts about being an originalist when the constitution is a document that has A been changed through amendments and is over 200 years old and doesn’t represent anything close to what the founders had in mind. Like, for example, even the idea of political parties.

McConnell is the devil incarnate with how he abused the system to leave enough vacancies for whatever Republican president was next. He deliberately blocked the nomination of vacancies at all sorts of levels to set up this court packing situation at all levels and then gave a list to Trump. These judges aren’t sycophantic to Trump, but they’re woefully unqualified and it’s broken the judicial process, these are lifetime appointments.. the Dems didn’t see it coming or underestimated the seriousness of this situation and it’s completely ####ed America.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcas...=1000496629664
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If that's the case, why aren't laws struck down the nanosecond the majority flips? Have respect for the court and it's decisions.
Because up until now the court and the party in power have worked on the assumption that there will be another election and power will inevitably transfer to the other side eventually, everyone will respect that and so not ignoring the electorate or throwing the country into chaos is kind of important, once you dont care about democracy anymore you no longer need to worry about any of that, do what ever the hell you want, impeach judges that dont rule in your favour although by this time you are surrounded by ex special forces with no moral compass that have a far quicker solution than that.
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Because up until now the court and the party in power have worked on the assumption that there will be another election and power will inevitably transfer to the other side eventually, everyone will respect that and so not ignoring the electorate or throwing the country into chaos is kind of important, once you dont care about democracy anymore you no longer need to worry about any of that, do what ever the hell you want, impeach judges that dont rule in your favour although by this time you are surrounded by ex special forces with no moral compass that have a far quicker solution than that.

Wow, you have an active imagination.
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Wow, you have an active imagination.
No just watched a country run by a man who clearly doesnt care a jot about democracy take over a party that has only ever cared about democracy for white people anyway, if Trump is reelected his power is limitless, I suppose we can hope that he acts with reason and restraint but nothing about the last 4 years when his power hasnt been limitless tends to argue for that
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No just watched a country run by a man who clearly doesnt care a jot about democracy take over a party that has only ever cared about democracy for white people anyway, if Trump is reelected his power is limitless, I suppose we can hope that he acts with reason and restraint but nothing about the last 4 years when his power hasnt been limitless tends to argue for that

You know what's weird? Trump gets his hands into everything. He has an opinion about everything, he wants to be the expert in everything.


Except Supreme Court nominations. He just stands back and let's Mitch nominates from the Federalist Society.
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You are so naive. ACB in particular is completely unfit to be a Supreme Court justice. She has no experience, no trial experience, and boasts about being an originalist when the constitution is a document that has A been changed through amendments and is over 200 years old and doesn’t represent anything close to what the founders had in mind. Like, for example, even the idea of political parties.

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I implore people to give this a listen:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcas...=1000496629664
George Bush’s nominees were held up too.

Do some research on McConnell. One of the events that shaped his thinking was the way Robert Bork was treated during his hearings.

Also, Harry Reid started a lot of this buy eliminating the filibuster for non SC judicial nominees.

As for ACB, conservatives were saying the crap about Obama’s lack of experience when he was a candidate in 2008.

There is so much nonsense in your post.
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Didn't see this posted. well worth the watch!

Who Is Donald J. Trump? Narrated By Julianne Moore

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Wow, you have an active imagination.
The Flames could have used the Kavanaugh rule whereby the game ends with 2 minutes left in the third period. They would have won the first round. Trump's lackies are already doing his bidding, Kavanaugh already threw out what will likely be 20-30K votes in Wisconsin. Next up is the GOP lawsuit launched today in Houston for Harris County trying to throw out 127,000 votes that have already been cast. Pretty sure Kavanaugh and his conservative sidekicks on the SCOTUS will toss those votes as well.

It is time that Article 3, Section 2 of the Constitution is properly invoked by Congress. The SCOTUS should only have jurisdiction for cases involving Ambassadors and where the State is a named party. All other cases should be decided by the 13 circuit courts. That would be consistent with an originalist interpretation of the Constitution and should gain overwhelming support from Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Thomas, ACB and Alito (although their support would not be necessary as they would not have jurisdiction to hear the case)

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Didn't see this posted. well worth the watch!

Who Is Donald J. Trump? Narrated By Julianne Moore
Awesome video. NowThis has been one of the best outlets (imo) at covering the Trump presidency. Here's their overview of Trump's historic bungling of the Covid response. Well worth the watch imo. (Warning: 31 minutes long)

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Also, Harry Reid started a lot of this buy eliminating the filibuster for non SC judicial nominees.
This is revisionist history. Harry Reid eliminated the filibuster because the Republican senate minority were literally blocking every single Obama judicial nominee out of pure partisanship. Moscow Mitch was abusing the filibuster to prevent a majority of senators from performing their role as defined by the US Constitution. What do you think Harry Reid should have done in that situation?
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George Bush’s nominees were held up too.

Do some research on McConnell. One of the events that shaped his thinking was the way Robert Bork was treated during his hearings.

Also, Harry Reid started a lot of this buy eliminating the filibuster for non SC judicial nominees.

As for ACB, conservatives were saying the crap about Obama’s lack of experience when he was a candidate in 2008.

There is so much nonsense in your post.
I forgot about Bork, the guy who was vehemently against Voting rights and the guy who fired the independent prosecutor investigating Nixon. He would fit right in with this current iteration of the SCOTUS.
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George Bush’s nominees were held up too.

Do some research on McConnell. One of the events that shaped his thinking was the way Robert Bork was treated during his hearings.

Also, Harry Reid started a lot of this buy eliminating the filibuster for non SC judicial nominees.

As for ACB, conservatives were saying the crap about Obama’s lack of experience when he was a candidate in 2008.

There is so much nonsense in your post.
Bush's one failed nominee was Harriet Miers, who was criticized intensely by the Republican Party.

Bork was a Reagan nominee and that experience fuelled McConnell to be the absolute devil that he is today.

You should watch this Frontline episode (watch with a VPN)...While you can understand where McConnell gets his motivation - he has taken it to an extreme that is indefensible.





Trying to compare what the Democrats have done and what McConnell has done is disgusting.
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That's a little over dramatic. Wow.
I’m not sure it is. If the orange menace gets his way the U.S. will be a dictatorship.
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Trump is convinced he will be leading at the end of election night and the late votes will "steal it"

The problem with his entire plan is that he will be losing at the end of the night on the third...block away jackass
Did you read the article that it actually is likely that in Pennsylvania that Teump will be winning at potentially by a substantial amount. In the on coming days it would swing back. So it the most critical state this is exactly what is likely to happen.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...lection-night/

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Right now, our forecast estimates that about 6.8 million votes will be cast in Pennsylvania, on average, and the average popular vote result gives Biden about a 5-point edge over Trump, 52 percent to 47 percent. If that panned out, that means Biden would win about 3.6 million votes to Trump’s 3.2 million (with a few additional votes for other candidates). And if the vote count followed what we saw in the primary, less than half of Biden’s votes would be in by 3 a.m. on election night, whereas around 70 percent of Trump’s would be reported.

That means we could be looking at a situation where Trump has about a 16-point lead, 58 percent to 42 percent, based on approximately 60 percent of the total expected vote. But over the course of the next few days — again, assuming the same pattern we observed in the primary — Biden would win two-thirds of the remaining votes, which would precipitate a 21-point shift in the overall margin from 3 a.m. on election night to the final result, as the chart below shows.
With a 16 point lead evaporating it’s easy to create the narrative of a stolen state with Mail in ballots. It’s entirely predictable though.
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