[Signing] Buffalo signs Taylor Hall (1 yr, $8 mil, NMC, NTC) - Page 7 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Ashasx · 10-11-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If signing a top 4 defenseman at $4.5M meant we couldn't sign Hall, we were never signing Hall.

If there was ever indication from Hall's camp that he wanted to be a Flame, I'm sure the Flames could have found the space. It wouldn't have signed Tanev in the first place.

OminousFlames · 10-11-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

Still pissed. Lol . Did we just loose out on Hall because of Tanev signing? I like Tanev but choosing him on a 4 year contract over a 1st line player is nuts. I rather have Hall for one year than Tanev for 4.

I can't see Hall being here when we have Gaudreau and Tkachuk as our top 2 LWs. Till one of them leaves, I can't see the Flames pursuing him.
If it's about cap space.. I think when we spent the money on Markstrom, is when we were out on a chance of signing Hall. Tanev is a lateral move for losing Brodie. Personally I liked Toffoli since he was playing for the Kings, and he is a natural RW.

topfiverecords · 10-11-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I don't know if I consider Buffalo all that close to Calgary.

Calgary isn't his home no matter how many people say it is. He was a kid here but his family moved to Kingston when he was 13.

Otto-matic · 10-11-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Honestly am okay with this.

Gives the core one more go. If they don’t get the job done we can have money opened up for Hall next season.

Thats my view too. They have a legit #1 Goaltender now, probably the first time Johnny/Mony ever had one on the Flames.

Lets give them a go and see what happens.

Jacks · 10-11-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Probably sees 2020-21 season as a wash with COVID. Wait for some more desirable teams to make cap room over the season and sign a big deal next summer.

This is what I'm thinking. Teams he wanted to go to couldn't offer a good deal so he gives it a year for some cap to clear up. He has total control of who he can be traded to so he can still be moved at the deadline and signed long term. If anything he probably chose a team most likely to move him late in the season.

Buff · 10-11-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ped

I think only if you count Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff big.

That's what I was thinking. Signing Leino wasn't big, even though his contract was.

kyuss275 · 10-11-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Honestly am okay with this.

Gives the core one more go. If they don’t get the job done we can have money opened up for Hall next season.

How many chances do they get? Granted I’m pretty sure that’s now the plan .

browna · 10-11-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Its not like the guy has never been injured before either...RISKY

I also don't think things will be looking much better for free agents next summer either

I think he figures that the time it will take for the team or teams that are on his radar this offseason, to shed cap space, was too tight for this season with Covid etc, but will be able to clear the books for next year.

Enoch Root · 10-11-2020, 05:45 PM

Not a bad option for Hall, considering how tight the market w, and the fact that he couldn't get the deal he wanted.

Great for Buffalo, as they get to try him out for a year, and if they aren't going to the playoffs, trade him.

He gets control of where he is traded.

DropIt · 10-11-2020, 05:45 PM

Not shocking ... what could we have offered him that was better? We dont have 8 mil in cap space so it was Hall or Markstrom.... I can think of who fills a bigger hole

DiracSpike · 10-11-2020, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

unless he has a bad season or gets injured, or both

Also, why would anyone expect teams to have more money next season? Teams will be bleeding money..."normal" isn't happening anytime soon

Injury is a risk, for sure.

You don’t think next summer will be better from a money standpoint? A full season ahead with the pandemic likely behind us? There’s going to be a lot more certainty, surely. It’s a bet but I think it’s a smart bet to make on yourself, better than wussing out and signing a long term contract millions below what you could get in a normal year in the middle of an unprecedented interruption.

Enoch Root · 10-11-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

If there was ever indication from Hall's camp that he wanted to be a Flame, I'm sure the Flames could have found the space. It wouldn't have signed Tanev in the first place.

So, you just wanted to bitch again about the Tanev contract, even though you readily admit that it didn't stop us from signing him.

bluejays · 10-11-2020, 05:49 PM

Is there a bookie who had Sabres as the worst odds of any team of getting him? I’m guessing he put a boatload of money on Buffalo before he signed that contract to supplement his lost income.

Enoch Root · 10-11-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DiracSpike

Injury is a risk, for sure.

You don’t think next summer will be better from a money standpoint? A full season ahead with the pandemic likely behind us? There’s going to be a lot more certainty, surely. It’s a bet but I think it’s a smart bet to make on yourself, better than wussing out and signing a long term contract millions below what you could get in a normal year in the middle of an unprecedented interruption.

This comes up every time a one-year deal is signed or discussed. Serious question: when is the last time a 28 year old had a career ending, or career altering injury? Once a decade maybe?

Otto-matic · 10-11-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DiracSpike

Injury is a risk, for sure.

You don’t think next summer will be better from a money standpoint? A full season ahead with the pandemic likely behind us? There’s going to be a lot more certainty, surely. It’s a bet but I think it’s a smart bet to make on yourself, better than wussing out and signing a long term contract millions below what you could get in a normal year in the middle of an unprecedented interruption.

Also I bet most teams would take a flyer on Hall in the summer with a decent pay day if he did get injured this year baring its a career ending one. We all know what he brings to the table and he's not going to have any issue attracting a team paying him big money.

genetic_phreek · 10-11-2020, 05:52 PM

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but maybe he wants to give it a go with Kruger again?

1qqaaz · 10-11-2020, 05:52 PM

I think this just shows why cap space is so valuable.
Especially once it's scarce.

OminousFlames · 10-11-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fleury

Is there a bookie who had Sabres as the worst odds of any team of getting him? I’m guessing he put a boatload of money on Buffalo before he signed that contract to supplement his lost income.

I think "odds" are out the window in this NHL pandemic off season. Also probably teams with little to no cap space had the least odds of landing him. Buffalo wasn't one of them.

Ashasx · 10-11-2020, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So, you just wanted to bitch again about the Tanev contract, even though you readily admit that it didn't stop us from signing him.

Don't take this so personally.

I_H8_Crawford · 10-11-2020, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Honestly am okay with this.

Gives the core one more go. If they don’t get the job done we can have money opened up for Hall next season.

Yeah, can't wait!!!

Will it be miss the playoffs, 1st round sweep or will they win 1-3 games???

Go Flames!!!

I look forward to Gaudreau's 0 5v5 points in the playoffs too... Going to be exciting!