2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

So, who are they moving out?


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In theory, Sign Mangiapne to 2x2.5 and Kylington 1x0.8. That leaves 1.01m, trade Ryan for a pick, any pick. Now you have 4.135m. Trade Rittich anywhere for a pick. Sign Dell for 1.25m

Now we have 5.635 to spend on Toffoli

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by mile

So these two teams are out. Edmonton is out.

So who else does that leave?
- Calgary
- Colorado? (looking unlikely with the Saad trade and their other signings)
- Montreal
- Nashville

I'd say Colorado is likely out.
Buffalo maybe? Close to Kingston, Eichel as his center. That's about it, I'd say.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

So, who are they moving out?


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Lucic ideally...though there isnt another GM in the league that would touch that contract. He is whats preventing a real run at Hall.

So that leaves Backlund (very unlikely), Ryan (possible but also doubtful) Bennett (also doubtful but likeliest of the 3 as he will get something in return more than Ryan) and Rittich.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

I'd say Colorado is likely out.
Buffalo maybe? Close to Kingston, Eichel as his center. That's about it, I'd say.

Never thought of Buffalo. They have to make Eichel happy. What’s Buffalo cap situation like? I know they mandated an internal $70 million cap.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

In theory, Sign Mangiapne to 2x2.5 and Kylington 1x0.8. That leaves 1.01m, trade Ryan for a pick, any pick. Now you have 4.135m. Trade Rittich anywhere for a pick. Sign Dell for 1.25m

Now we have 5.635 to spend on Toffoli

I doubt you can signMangiapane for 2..25 even for one year.

I doubt these days you can trade Ryan and Rittich for picks without taking salary back.

Plus you would need to spend at least 1M to replace Ryan’s spot.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Lucic ideally...though there isnt another GM in the league that would touch that contract. He is whats preventing a real run at Hall.

So that leaves Backlund (very unlikely), Ryan (possible but also doubtful) Bennett (also doubtful but likeliest of the 3 as he will get something in return more than Ryan) and Rittich.

Johnson was left unclaimed. And he’s 10 times the player of Lucic.


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[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Lucic ideally...though there isnt another GM in the league that would touch that contract. He is whats preventing a real run at Hall.

So that leaves Backlund (very unlikely), Ryan (possible but also doubtful) Bennett (also doubtful but likeliest of the 3 as he will get something in return more than Ryan) and Rittich.

Guys there is no chance that Lucic waives. He has already said that the last couple of years in Edmonton were not enjoyable. He has finally found a spot where he likes it and is respected in the room. I doubt he wants to take a chance at moving again only not to enjoy the experience.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Lucic ideally...though there isnt another GM in the league that would touch that contract. He is whats preventing a real run at Hall.

So that leaves Backlund (very unlikely), Ryan (possible but also doubtful) Bennett (also doubtful but likeliest of the 3 as he will get something in return more than Ryan) and Rittich.

I would attach a first and a second to get rid of Lucic. That cap space is more valuable to us than a mid to late first round pick

[CrazyCaper]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Except Hall only costs teams vying for him money. Getting Johnny costs assets ,and considerable assets at that to obtain him.

I have a feeling that those teams who miss out on Hall will circle back to Calgary to ask about the availability of Gaudreau and Monahan. Both Nashville and Columbus have cleared out significant cap space looking for a difference maker. Both players could make an impact right away for a lower cap hit than Hall. Tre will be looking for assets but the cap space will mean more in the long term.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Tanev got 4x4.5m, Brodie got 4x5m, Krug got 6.5x7

If a GM is willing to give those contracts, my suggestion is not that out there.

But it didn't happen dude! Admit you were wrong and keep it moving.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt you can signMangiapane for 2..25 even for one year.

I doubt these days you can trade Ryan and Rittich for picks without taking salary back.

Plus you would need to spend at least 1M to replace Ryan’s spot.


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2.5, not 2.25 and considering Jesper Fast who plays a more well rounded game and is comparable offensively just signed for 3x2m as a UFA, it seems like a pretty reasonable amount.

[Poe969]

Wow...sorry, just not paying attention

[Nelson]

According to CapFriendly and my calculations, this would leave the Flames with a grand total of $185,834 in cap space. Therefore, unless the Flames make some trades, I think the roster is pretty well set. If so, this is the lineup I want to see.

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Monahan - Backlund - Mangiapane (2.8M)
Lucic - Bennett - Dube
Robinson - Ryan - Gawdin (900K)
Rinaldo

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Tanev
Valimaki - Kylington (900K)
Mackey (925K)

Markstrom
Rittich

I guess Petrovic will probably battle for the 6/7 spots too.

The Flames could really use another quality forward. Ryan and Rittich look like the players the Flames could move to create cap space to add two forwards or one forward and a goalie respectively. It'll never happen, but I just want to know what the price to move Lucic would be. I'm curious.

Moving Rittich is probably a complete pipe dream. Anaheim is the only team that could use a goaltender, and they might have a goalie I don't know about. Plus, Jimmy Howard is still out there.

Moving Ryan would probably be much easier.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

But it didn't happen dude! Admit you were wrong and keep it moving.

Barrie was looking for a 1 year deal, so no it didn't happen, those numbers were what I said I would do. Get over it dude.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Fast signed already

You don't say....

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I would attach a first and a second to get rid of Lucic. That cap space is more valuable to us than a mid to late first round pick

Yup....almost like its handcuffing the organization.

Hmmm.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Is it just me or is Mangiapane getting to be a little overrated? 2.8m? Really?

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Is it just me or is Mangiapane getting to be a little overrated? 2.8m? Really?

There was a good article (well, at least I thought so) on Flamesnation going over Mangi's next contract and recent comparables

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/07/03/m...e-comparables/

I think he gets around 3 x 3

[AC]

Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?

There was a good article (well, at least I thought so) on Flamesnation going over Mangi's next contract and recent comparables

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/07/03/m...e-comparables/

I think he gets around 3 x 3

3 years would walk him to UFA status at age 27.
Realistically a Mangiapane contract should be 2 years, or 5/6 years ala Rasmus Andersson.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Thanks I'll have a read. I just don't see him as ~3m player. He is pretty one dimensional. I would pay 2x2.4 max