[Signing] Flames sign Chris Tanev (4 years, $4.5 million AAV)

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

This trajectory does not look good...



This is a bad signing.

What is this rubbish? What does it even mean.

I will take the word of many Canucks fans who are sad about him leaving just like the Flames with Brodie. Or the word of fans who watched him and clearly label him as a heart and soul guy who cares - the Flames need more of that.

[FiveSeven]

His numbers went down because Vancouver got worse...overall, and defensively.

He's always been one of their best defenders.

He will play better here then he did there, I'm sure of that.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

He's a good top 4 defensive D man and he can skate well, but he's got no offense in his game. The Flames need some offense from their D.

I hope this is plan B or C

If the flames cant muster offense from gio, hanafin, anderson , valamaki and kylington. Then they need different youth to develope.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

And I think if the plan is to use Tanev on the first pairing for four years, it's a disastrous contract.

I liked Tanev in his prime but IMO he is so far past it at this point. He has played one full season in his career. He is signed until he's 34 and he might not be better than replacement level this season.

He's signed until he's 35

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I'd be worried about his skating. It's definitely not what it was and I vividly remember him getting burned at the start of last season

Its okay, we have a couple Mackey/Maki kids with some legs pushing up through the ranks.

Long as he can be nhl caliber.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Red

Outside of the games played this sounds like Robyn Regher. What a bum.

that is the exact name I thought of

[868904]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The problem that I see with the Tanev deal is that it will probably cause the Flames to move out a guy like Derek Ryan when, really, the contract they would probably be best served by moving out is Chris Tanev.

Ryan is gone next year anyways and he is a serviceable player but I don’t see a lot of Derek Ryan’s on championship teams.

He’s not skilled enough for the top 6 and not big and strong enough for the bottom six. He’s a good player but he’s the classic “tweener” type player for “tweener” type teams.

The 4th line needs to get bigger, stronger and faster and Ryan doesn’t really fit there.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What is this rubbish? What does it even mean.

I will take the word of many Canucks fans who are sad about him leaving just like the Flames with Brodie. Or the word of fans who watched him and clearly label him as a heart and soul guy who cares - the Flames need more of that.

Heart and soul guy who cares

what Islanders fans said about Hamonic

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

His numbers went down because Vancouver got worse...overall, and defensively.
He's always been one of their best defenders.
He will play better here then he did there, I'm sure of that.

Yep, Vancouver has been in a full blown rebuild

[Manhattanboy]

Isn’t the consensus that Tanev had a better playoffs than Brodie?

My VAN friends are pretty upset with this signing.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by Corral

I do think that the homerism on this board has risen in recent years. If that’s what you want me to say

This is CalgaryPuck you know... (though with the amount of Canucks talk recently, maybe we need to rebrand ) so I don't understand why people are surprised when there may be a bit of homerism. Plus, it's been so bipolar, you're either a homer or someone who hates the team and if I wanted to read threads about how much someone hates the Flames, I can check out the other board.

Plus, it's not as if your initial comment was coming from a tone of neutrality, it just simply didn't make sense. We all can agree that E=NG (at least I hope we can) but if we were to acquire McDavid and Draisatl, should that be looked down upon? Hyperbole I know, but the point stands.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by 868904

Ryan is gone next year anyways and he is a serviceable player but I don’t see a lot of Derek Ryan’s on championship teams.

He’s not skilled enough for the top 6 and not big and strong enough for the bottom six. He’s a good player but he’s the classic “tweener” type player for “tweener” type teams.

The 4th line needs to get bigger, stronger and faster and Ryan doesn’t really fit there.

That's the point, though. I'd rather just keep Ryan because he's gone after next year and him leaving will free space for the kids. Tanev is IMO a worse player on a worse contract and he's probably going to be on the books for at least the next four years.

But I would happily be wrong about this. What number is he going to wear? Will Valimaki give up #8?

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What is this rubbish? What does it even mean.

I will take the word of many Canucks fans who are sad about him leaving just like the Flames with Brodie. Or the word of fans who watched him and clearly label him as a heart and soul guy who cares - the Flames need more of that.

Same thing was said about Brouwer and Neal.

Tanev's has a negative impact when he's on the ice. He provides legitimate good defense 5v5, but overall his impact is negative.

The Flames need more players that have heart and soul AND are going to help them win games, not players like Tanev

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Heart and soul guy who cares

what Islanders fans said about Hamonic

Hamonic didn’t disappoint in that area, and he did have one season I thought was pretty darn good. But Tanev has played better than Hamonic over the last 2 years so if you get those intangibles plus improved play, great.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Heart and soul guy who cares

what Islanders fans said about Hamonic

Since all it cost was money and an extra $750k, I’ll take that over a 1st and two 2nds.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Isn’t the consensus that Tanev had a better playoffs than Brodie?

My VAN friends are pretty upset with this signing.

Nope.

From a numbers perspective they both got their teeth kicked in during the playoffs, Tanev a good deal worse than Brodie did - but neither were good.

[activeStick]

I get the feeling that Brodie and his wife maybe had thoughts of being closer to family at home especially with her health, and the fact that Treliving tried already to move Brodie in the offseason helped push him to sign with the Leafs.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Same thing was said about Brouwer and Neal.

Tanev's has a negative impact when he's on the ice. He provides legitimate good defense 5v5, but overall his impact is negative.

The Flames need more players that have heart and soul AND are going to help them win games, not players like Tanev

That's a valid point around Neal and Brouwer. I don't love the move but I would rather have him than Hamonic or Barrie.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What is this rubbish? What does it even mean.

I will take the word of many Canucks fans who are sad about him leaving just like the Flames with Brodie. Or the word of fans who watched him and clearly label him as a heart and soul guy who cares - the Flames need more of that.

It’s his isolated Impact on expected goals against with him on the ice (redline) and expected goals for with him on the ice (blue line)

So Canucks fans are right and he was at one point a really good defensive dman, but he’s been on a downward trajectory for 4 seasons and wasn’t that good last season anymore.

So hopefully he bucks the trend but based on his injury history and age it not likely that he finds his previous level.

I don’t know why this team has to act like cap space needs to be filled right away. Lots of teams in cap trouble and they could have maybe taken advantage of the situation. Instead we go out and spend $10.5M right away on day one of free agency.

[theinfinitejar]

If I were an NHL GM I would simply not sign/trade for aging declining players with lots of money and/or term.