10-06-2020, 08:54 PM
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#401
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On Jessica Albas chest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Look at the numbers. Hall is not as good as Gaudreau. I think most would agree with that.
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Because of his injuries the last few years?
Ive seen much more than i need to on Johnnys compete level when it really matters.
Its not even close that Taylor is better.
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10-06-2020, 08:54 PM
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#402
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I feel like his NTC would align with the teams most willing to obtain him as they know they can re-sign him. So it doesn’t really matter in my opinion. It’s hockey world public knowledge he’s heading to the north eastern US.
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Unless he has one team (let’s say Philly) and then names 4 teams that don’t need him (TB) or teams (Edmonton) Calgary wouldn’t trade him to.
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10-06-2020, 09:00 PM
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#403
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
So Demko is Seattle bound then?
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Won't know until/if we see the contract. The main sticking point had been a NTC/NMC or money to compensate for it. The reason they didn't want to give a movement clause before the expansion draft (there is no issue with one post draft) is to make sure they don't lose a valuable asset for free. This way allows them to move either Demko or Markstrom next season if they feel it is necessary.
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10-06-2020, 09:02 PM
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#404
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Still, the closer you get to that deadline, the more desperate you are and therefore the other GM drives the price down.
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If he's playing well there is no reason to be desperate though. Fans really overrate how much just 1 year left on a deal impacts value for elite players.
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10-06-2020, 09:03 PM
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#405
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Hall - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Yes please.
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And Dube, Mangiapane, Bennett together.
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10-06-2020, 09:05 PM
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#406
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
If he's playing well there is no reason to be desperate though. Fans really overrate how much just 1 year left on a deal impacts value for elite players.
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That’s not the issue, it’s the LNTC if you can’t make the deal. I think Treliving can still get value, just not as much. That clause may as well be a full NTC.
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10-06-2020, 09:07 PM
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#407
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison
Because of his injuries the last few years?
Ive seen much more than i need to on Johnnys compete level when it really matters.
Its not even close that Taylor is better.
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It's not even close? You are beyond wrong here.
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10-06-2020, 09:09 PM
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#408
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Lifetime Suspension
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Accounts from yotes fans on the board indicated that Hall led the way for Arizona in the POs.
That certainly was not the case with Johnny.
But I could see the potential for the Johnny and Hall combo doing great things. He could use a new look on that line in terms of a big talent to work off of.
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10-06-2020, 09:10 PM
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#409
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
That’s not the issue, it’s the LNTC if you can’t make the deal. I think Treliving can still get value, just not as much. That clause may as well be a full NTC.
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And as I said, the L-NTC doesn't kick in until the equivalent of July 1st, they can trade him at the draft the week or so before the NTC kicks in and he will still have excellent value. Then that team has the option of moving Gaudreau at the deadline if they can't extend him and they'll probably still get a first and a couple seconds.
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10-06-2020, 09:12 PM
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#410
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Is Monahan going to be happy if we trade Gaudreau?
Why would he want to stick around and re-sign here?
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10-06-2020, 09:13 PM
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#411
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
And Dube, Mangiapane, Bennett together.
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That is the ideal 3rd line. Would be a very quick and tenacious line.
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10-06-2020, 09:13 PM
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#412
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Is Monahan going to be happy if we trade Gaudreau?
Why would he want to stick around and re-sign here?
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I think it will be frightening to see him without Jonny.
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10-06-2020, 09:14 PM
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#413
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On Jessica Albas chest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
It's not even close? You are beyond wrong here.
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You want to look at strictly numbers be my guest.
Im not going to take the time to break down ppg in the last few years as the games played arent even but i imagine they are very close.
The big factor is one of them is one is a leader when the lights shine brightest and the other is a wilting flower.
So ya, that very important detail makes it not even close.
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10-06-2020, 09:14 PM
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#414
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Monahan looked good with Lee Stempniak. I'm sure he'll be fine if it comes to that.
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10-06-2020, 09:15 PM
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#415
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Is Monahan going to be happy if we trade Gaudreau?
Why would he want to stick around and re-sign here?
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You can’t manage a team worrying about making sure every Tom dick and Harry is happy with all your decisions. He will either get over it. Leave, or we trade him too.
Bigger mistake, to head into next season with the same song and dance knowing the inevitable outcome come round 1.
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10-06-2020, 09:17 PM
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#416
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
I think it will be frightening to see him without Jonny.
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He scored 22 goals in his rookie year without Johnny.
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10-06-2020, 09:20 PM
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#417
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Won't know until/if we see the contract. The main sticking point had been a NTC/NMC or money to compensate for it. The reason they didn't want to give a movement clause before the expansion draft (there is no issue with one post draft) is to make sure they don't lose a valuable asset for free. This way allows them to move either Demko or Markstrom next season if they feel it is necessary.
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One of em gets traded, if they resign Markstrom
Dhaliwhal already said they are looking at goalies who would qualify for the expansion draft and going to offer a 2 way deal so that's who they would make available
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10-06-2020, 09:22 PM
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#418
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy
He scored 22 goals in his rookie year without Johnny.
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It truly amazes me how many are clueless to the fact that Monahan has had success without Gaudreau
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10-06-2020, 09:24 PM
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#419
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Franchise Player
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10-06-2020, 09:26 PM
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#420
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I'm curious as to your thoughts as to what happens tomorrow. Do we see a major trade? Do we acquire halls rights?
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