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DJones · 10-06-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown Royal

This whole thing is to help Tampa out, for the upgrade from Johnny to Stammer to cost our 1st plus Kylington seems like overkill.

With Stamkos's injury history I don't think he's worth that much either.

Enoch Root · 10-06-2020, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by New Era

Two options? Fleury + 2nd for Ryan. Or Fleury (25% retained) for Ryan + Rittich.

No one (including the Flames) bit on Fleury + 2nd for nothing. Why do the Flames now add Ryan?

I would consider Fleury + 2nd, 25% retained, for nothing, if we miss out on Markstrom.

But my first response is a giant no to Fleury, period.

Crown Royal · 10-06-2020, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Honestly it probably is too much with Tampa taking on no cap back. Maybe it doesn't have to include the 1st.

Meant it more as a general idea of what a structure could look like, honestly tough to know what Stamkos value is right now.

I think it could be gone about a couple ways. Swap the 1st for a 3rd/4th and I think it's close. Or, remove the first outright and take Johnson too. I think saving $7m in the deal would really appeal to Tampa.

We could make it work too. The following scenario leave about 110k in cap space

to CGY: Stamkos, Johnson
to TBL: Gaudreau, Kylington

to CGY: Best possible pick (5th?)
to ???: Ryan

to CGY: Ristolainen, 3rd in '20 (#99)
to BUF: Backlund

Re-sign Mangiapane 2 x 2.500m
Re-sign Rieder & Quine 1 x 0.700m
Sign Markstrom 7 x 5.000m (tacked on a couple extra years to ensure we can get him for 5m AAV)
Sign Galchenyuk 1 x 1.750m
Sign Boyle 1 x 0.850m

Tkachuk - Stamkos - Lindholm
Galchenyuk - Monahan - Johnson
Mangiapane - Bennett - Dube
Lucic - Boyle - Rieder
Quine

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Ristolainen
Valimaki - Mackey
Stone

Markstrom
Rittich

UKflames · 10-06-2020, 10:39 AM

Didn't know where to put this but seems like the best place.

It appears that Arizona are not giving a QO to V Hinostoroza, which surprises me, but might be worth watching as a possible cheap addition.

Crown Royal · 10-06-2020, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJones

With Stamkos's injury history I don't think he's worth that much either.

People really blow his injury history out of proportion. He's had 3 major injuries in his career. A broken leg, a knee injury and now a "core" injury that he had surgery on and came back too soon from.

Buff · 10-06-2020, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJones

With Stamkos's injury history I don't think he's worth that much either.

Three seasons out of 12 where he has missed significant time due to injury. Is he really a high risk for injury?

Crown Royal · 10-06-2020, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by UKflames

Didn't know where to put this but seems like the best place.

It appears that Arizona are not giving a QO to V Hinostoroza, which surprises me, but might be worth watching as a possible cheap addition.

I would love Hino!

ComixZone · 10-06-2020, 10:42 AM

Dreger on TSN Radio just said that he has heard Calgary has interest in Tyson Barrie.

That shouldn’t be a surprise to us. There were rumours during the season of a Brodie for Barrie trade.

sureLoss · 10-06-2020, 10:43 AM

Insider trading:

Jets aren't just selling Laine they want a top 2 C or top 2 D in return
Flyers are the team that are most engaged with the Jets and were perhaps offering a d-man but that has cooled

Flyers do not have any interest in paying Pietrangelo on a long term deal

Hoffman appears to be heading to free agency but the Panthers let Hoffman's camp that if they could move salary they would circle back.
Some of the teams in on Hall will target Hoffman if they miss on Hall

Hall is going to take his time on free agency
Will be taking zoom presentations on Friday and Saturday

Told NYR have no intention of moving the 1st OA pick

dissentowner · 10-06-2020, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dreger on TSN Radio just said that he has heard Calgary has interest in Tyson Barrie, which shouldn’t be a surprise. We had heard rumours during the season of a Brodie for Barrie trade.

I think Barrie could be a great candidate to rebound so I think he will want a short term deal

Blaster86 · 10-06-2020, 10:44 AM

Per his agent, OEL has put a Friday deadline on a trade. If he isn't dealt to either Vancouver or Boston by Friday he will close up shop and stay in Arizona.

Let's all hold hands and keep praying! It's working!

Crown Royal · 10-06-2020, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

If it's Fleury (no retention) and a 2nd and the Knights are getting crickets ...

I wonder

a) what it will take to move him
and
b) where I start seeing less warts on Fleury and more opportunity.

Maybe Fleury (2m retained) a 2nd and 3rd? I'd have to consider that. Vet goalie, good in the room, Rittich is still around, and you add draft capital..

Fair points. I thought about this a bit more after and if they aren't getting calls back on Fleury + 2nd, maybe we can get their 1st and a prospect (Roy?) if we eat the whole thing and bail out a divisional rival. Because I don't think it cripples us if we have a $7m goalie.

Crown Royal · 10-06-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dreger on TSN Radio just said that he has heard Calgary has interest in Tyson Barrie.

That shouldn’t be a surprise to us. There were rumours during the season of a Brodie for Barrie trade.

I fully suspect Barrie is our #1 target and we re-sign Brodie if Barrie declines.

Vinny01 · 10-06-2020, 10:48 AM

Laine for Patrick, Myers, 1st
Johnny and Bennett for Konecny, Frost, Zumula

Flyers nab the 2 best wingers on the trade market while vastly improving their offense. They move their best 2 young centers and bit get Bennett back in the deal

Jets get their right shot D, hometown center and a pick.

Flames get a great young top 6 forward signed long term, they get a right shot D prospect and an expansion exempt center who steps into the 3rd line spot this year and hopefully will push for a top 6 role in the years that come.

Doctorfever · 10-06-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dreger on TSN Radio just said that he has heard Calgary has interest in Tyson Barrie.

That shouldn’t be a surprise to us. There were rumours during the season of a Brodie for Barrie trade.

For some reason I don’t have a good feeling about Barrie. I would prefer to sign Brodie instead. Maybe it’s just because I am comfortable with Brodie here.

I am not sure that Barrie moves the needle significantly more than Brodie, considering he will likely be a higher cap hit.

I am sure some of the more savvy posters can find advanced stats that might say different.

dammage79 · 10-06-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

Per his agent, OEL has put a Friday deadline on a trade. If he isn't dealt to either Vancouver or Boston by Friday he will close up shop and stay in Arizona.

Let's all hold hands and keep praying! It's working!

You know Benning is going to get him.

Quick all Flames fans, let's grab a goat and sacrifice it to scorch to make this happen!

Enoch Root · 10-06-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I fully suspect Barrie is our #1 target and we re-sign Brodie if Barrie declines.

Brodie >> Barrie

Monahammer · 10-06-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

If it's Fleury (no retention) and a 2nd and the Knights are getting crickets ...

I wonder

a) what it will take to move him
and
b) where I start seeing less warts on Fleury and more opportunity.

Maybe Fleury (2m retained) a 2nd and 3rd? I'd have to consider that. Vet goalie, good in the room, Rittich is still around, and you add draft capital..

I have been wondering the same thing. My target would be Calgarian Peyton Krebs.

Krebs+Fleury (2m retained) for our 3rd?

Flames1217 · 10-06-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorfever

For some reason I don’t have a good feeling about Barrie. I would prefer to sign Brodie instead. Maybe it’s just because I am comfortable with Brodie here.

I am not sure that Barrie moves the needle significantly more than Brodie, considering he will likely be a higher cap hit.

I am sure some of the more savvy posters can find advanced stats that might say different.

I feel the same.

Rather Brodie big time.

If we get frustrated with Brodie's defensive brain farts just wait to see Barrie's.

Blaster86 · 10-06-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

You know Benning is going to get him.

Quick all Flames fans, let's grab a goat and sacrifice it to scorch to make this happen!

No! We must work together, not against each other! No OEL! OEL is Arizona! Say it with me now!

Edit - Will also accept "Trade Sweeney Trade! Trade Sweeny Trade!