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Old 10-02-2020, 12:18 PM   #9301
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Treliving says the goaltending market right now is as fluid as he can remember.

“I thought David was excellent early. I thought Cam was excellent late. Goaltending was a strength in the playoffs. Returning the same goaltenders next season is not necessarily a bad thing. #Flames
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:19 PM   #9302
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The point is its a waste of money to "buy a big name goalie". Sorry it mucks up your pretend GM posts.
Vasilevskiy was the highest-paid player on the Lightning this season (tied for the highest cap hit with Kucherov) and was the highest-paid goalie (3rd-highest cap hit) in the entire league.


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Actually, I got tripped-up by Cap Friendly showing the 2020-21 season already. Those things will be true next season... So, I guess the Lightning have no chance of repeating. That's good to know.
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If you keep saying it, it might start to matter!

Question: if we traded for Vasilevski, would he no longer be a goalie you can win with?
If anything all this does is highlight how hard it is to pry goalie talent away from teams.
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:22 PM   #9304
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Treliving says the goaltending market right now is as fluid as he can remember.

“I thought David was excellent early. I thought Cam was excellent late. Goaltending was a strength in the playoffs. Returning the same goaltenders next season is not necessarily a bad thing. #Flames
I think we got a good bang for our buck out of them and I wouldn't be opposed to keeping them both.

But the team around them needs to better. It's a good goalie tandem if the team is great. If the rest of the roster isn't improved, then I don't think these are goalies that will bail you out regularly.
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:27 PM   #9305
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TSN has some of the Tree availability up here

"We want to make our team better...we don't know when that will happen" when talking about the trade market potentially being different than the norm (focused around the draft)....well, it certainly didn't happen any time in the last two years...so we're due, right?

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The point is its a waste of money to "buy a big name goalie". Sorry it mucks up your pretend GM posts.
Except I don't think any team should ever spend more than $6m on a starter and no more than $8m on a tandem, so it really doesn't affect my pretend GM posts. You're just spreading a current trend as if it is the be all and end all, which it isn't.
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Bishops SV% is inflated due to his size. Yes, that works out in the long run of a season, odds are he will be in front of most shots.

But, he isn’t, and never has, been the guy to make a couple big saves to win a game.
He also seems to be injured a lot.
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Colorado and Vegas have no chance until they develop their own goalie?
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Bishops SV% is inflated due to his size. Yes, that works out in the long run of a season, odds are he will be in front of most shots.

But, he isn’t, and never has, been the guy to make a couple big saves to win a game.

Do I care how a goalie makes saves?

I do not.

The vast majority of saves are simply due to a goalie putting himself in the best percentage place to make the save.


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Old 10-02-2020, 12:45 PM   #9310
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I dont feel its time to give up on Bennet, Backlund did not come into is own until like his 7th season
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"We want to make our team better...we don't know when that will happen" when talking about the trade market potentially being different than the norm (focused around the draft)....well, it certainly didn't happen any time in the last two years...so we're due, right?
Yes this season we are due no doubt about it. 2 years ago we knew Hamilton was gone and it was a sold hockey trade for both teams. This years first round loss was the 3rd first round exit in 4 years.

This team is going to get a huge shakeup I have no doubt.
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Do I care how a goalie makes saves?

I do not.

The vast majority of saves are simply due to a goalie putting himself in the best percentage place to make the save.


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The problem with Bishop is he runs hot and cold. You see him get two shutouts in a row and then give up 5 or more a game for a week. I think he is regressing as well. I just think there are better options out there.
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:57 PM   #9313
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Bishops SV% is inflated due to his size. Yes, that works out in the long run of a season, odds are he will be in front of most shots.

But, he isn’t, and never has, been the guy to make a couple big saves to win a game.
I am not big on Bishop mainly because of injuries but this made me laugh. It’s like saying “sure Ovie’s goal total is big but lots of that is due to his great shot”.
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Arizona has hired Ryan Jankowski as its new director of amateur scouting... wouldn't be surprised to see Mark wind up there as a free agent if he goes unqualified.
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Yes this season we are due no doubt about it. 2 years ago we knew Hamilton was gone and it was a sold hockey trade for both teams. This years first round loss was the 3rd first round exit in 4 years.

This team is going to get a huge shakeup I have no doubt.

Based on Treiving’s tone today, it’s looking less and less likely that major changes are coming.
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I am not big on Bishop mainly because of injuries but this made me laugh. It’s like saying “sure Ovie’s goal total is big but lots of that is due to his great shot”.
Kinda different though. His high danger scoring chance save percentage is poor to mediocre. And the Flames are in the bottom 3rd of the league for giving them up.

It would be like if his shooting percentage is high but he never gets shots off.

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Thought on a trade around Derek Ryan for Tyler Johnson?
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:10 PM   #9318
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Thought on a trade around Derek Ryan for Tyler Johnson?
I’m for it; Tyler Johnson would easily be one of the three best centres the team has employed since Daymond Langkow.
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:12 PM   #9319
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Based on Treiving’s tone today, it’s looking less and less likely that major changes are coming.
It does feel like there's smoke around a Palmieri deal...

...not suggesting that's necessarily major

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The point is its a waste of money to "buy a big name goalie". Sorry it mucks up your pretend GM posts.
Can you offer an explanation why you think so?

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It does matter. It just doesn't fit into your opinions.
Why does it matter?
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