2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Only the ones that have the whole league to pick from and head back to their original team.

Yeah. That loser Steven Stamkos did it too.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by btimbit

The Hayes brothers are massive jokesters. Don't take that too serious

Kevin is probably telling him what he wants to happen

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

WHEN WILL SOMETHING HAPPEN!!! LOL

I guess the draft is coming, but I am shocked that the Flames have done nothing. No resigning current players, trades or anything other than keeping Ward.

Things rarely happen until the day before the draft. There will be little bits of news when some players don't receive qualifying offers, then stuff happens the day before the draft and both days off the draft, then stuff starts happening again the day before free agency. It's no different than any other off-season except this is happening in October and more condensed rather than June/July.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Knut

Kevin is probably telling him what he wants to happen

For sure, they're buddies with Gaudreau. Surprised he's not saying Hanifin too. Just stirring the pot

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Oversimplification. Are people really applauding return of the same core? Or are they applauding the possible return of a good player?
Have you performed a cross analysis to see if people that are happy about Brodie being back are also ones that want Johnny back?

I would be happy to see Brodie return
But I won't be happy if no core changes are made.

I suspect many feel the same. You are drawing a conclusion absent actual information .

Re-signing Brodie will dramatically narrow Treliving’s options for other core-changing deals.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Konecny's career best is 61 points (in 66 games). Johnny's career worst is 58 points (in 70 games). By 23, Johnny had posted 64, 78, and 61 point seasons. Konecny at 23 has 28, 47, 49, and 61 points.

Johnny is the better player. He also drives our offense. The difference is at least Frost - basing trade value off last season alone is selling low on Johnny, and should not be done. Keep him if that's the best you're getting offered.

He's quite a bit younger, signed to a better AAV with way more years of control. He didn't really get the PP opportunities until this year, when he led the Flyers in scoring.

I doubt you'll get anything better than that. And next year, his trade value will be quite bit less, unless he has a great season.

But as I said, it's debatable. But I still feel Frost is never the difference.

Johnny might right now be the better player, but Konecny has the big age difference, the way better contract, and quite a bit more upside to improve.

Other teams actually have more leverage in any trade. Johnny's value will continue to decrease as his contract become shorter. No one has to trade for Johnny. And while Trev does not have to trade Johnny now, he likely will have to sometime down the road.

[Harry Lime]

It's interesting, but the closer to the draft/UFA that we get, the more lenient I feel about the core of the club. Excluding rookies, my untradable assets are Tkachuk, Dube, Bennett, Lindholm, Andersson and Kylington.... and that's it.

For next season to be entertaining, I want to see some new faces.

[Vinny01]

Eklunds entire blog is about the Flames goaltending search.

Sounds like we want Markstrom, Murray, Holtby and even Hank

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...Leafs/1/107671

[sureLoss]

Ryan Leslie @ryanlesliemedia
Treliving says it’s a very tentative (trade) market right now. There’s a cautiousness to the market right now with people being careful.

[Roof-Daddy]

I imagine one reason the trade market is clogged up pretty good right now is some of the pending free agents. Especially the goalie market. No sense trading a 1st for Kuemper if you can sign Markstrom or Lehner. No point trading for a top 4 Dman if you can sign one of the UFA Dmen that are still unsigned.

[Canada 02]

Of the goalies who are under contract, who is the most interesting?
Matt Murray
MAF
Rask
Bishop
Merzlikins
Korpisalo
Andersen
Kuemper
Dubnyk

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Of the goalies who are under contract, who is the most interesting?
Matt Murray
MAF
Rask
Bishop
Merzlikins
Korpisalo
Andersen
Kuemper

Bishop has had the 2nd best save % of any goalie with more than 100 starts over the last 3 seasons IIRC.

I believe Kuemper was 1st. Can't remember.

Really don't want to give up assets for a goalie though unless they can't get one of the UFA's, including Talbot.

[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving says he hasn’t closed the door on any of his pending UFA players.

Says the ball is in his court right now to let them know where things stand.

[Harry Lime]

If Dallas re-signs Khudobin, as they are rumored to want to do, Bishop becomes the most interesting trade target immediately. I remember reading an opinion article about how Dallas could maintain the momentum into next year, and bringing in a top six winger was identified as a major 'want'. Johnny was disregarded, as Dallas not having the assets to make that happen.

But if Bisop is suddenly in play... Bishop, their 1st and Ty Dellandrea would probably work for me.

[sureLoss]

On Friedman's podcast, he says that the Hanifin rumors stem from when the Flames offered Hanifin and Bennett to NJ for Hall and Vatanen. He says that he doesn't think Bennett is available anymore as he is part of what the Flames are trying to move forward.

[topfiverecords]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1312071406516146176

[bax]

Tkachuk was on the Cam and Strick podcast today. Nothing crazy, just talks about the off season, his injury, being in the bubble, the team, etc. It's pretty interesting to hear him talk about teams around the league. The guy is a total hockey nerd. Some of the best tidbits:

- Had to hold the door open for Paul Maurice walking back to the hotel once and he wouldn't even look at him.

- The replay that Maurice kept mentioning doesn't exist according to Tkachuk. Says the Flames never saw it and Maurice had the old "one person feed" and "HD vision".

- He tried to fight Wheeler earlier. Wheeler's response was that he'd love to, but Paul won't let him. After the Schiefele incident Tkachuk said "well, will you fight me now?"

- Says Schiefele is one of the best guys ever. They have been texting during the off season and they are buddies. Feels bad, but at the end of the day that's hockey.

- Talk about Tampa picking up Goodrow, Coleman, Schenn, Bogosian, and Maroon and how much it helped Tampa. Says Lucic provides that to the Flames.

- Battle of Alberta is the biggest rivalry in sports right now. The build up before a game is like nothing else. He loves it.

- After he stole Burns stick and took it to the bench during his rookie year Burns sent a signed stick over after the game and signed it "If you wanted a stick all you had to do was ask, love playing against you" or something like that..

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I imagine one reason the trade market is clogged up pretty good right now is some of the pending free agents. Especially the goalie market. No sense trading a 1st for Kuemper if you can sign Markstrom or Lehner. No point trading for a top 4 Dman if you can sign one of the UFA Dmen that are still unsigned.

I think there are many factors. The UFA market is definitely a big factor, but so is the fact most teams don't have a bunch of cap space, which has been further compounded by the flat cap and teams wanting to lower their payrolls. I read aa quote somewhere where it was a said that lots of players are available for trade, and guys that usually do have value, are being shopped for almost nothing in order to move their contracts.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On Friedman's podcast, he says that the Hanifin rumors stem from when the Flames offered Hanifin and Bennett to NJ for Hall and Vatanen. He says that he doesn't think Bennett is available anymore as he is part of what the Flames are trying to move forward.

That's good news. I want to see Bennett playing centre on that 3rd line.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

He says that he doesn't think Bennett is available anymore as he is part of what the Flames are trying to move forward.