2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

Not a baseball guy, but I thought you couldn't slide into first.

You can, it’s just dumb. Which I think added something to the example.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

That’s not what he says at any point though.

The way I read it was the Leafs, Tavares and the Islanders explores it briefly but ran out of time. Unless they changed the rules through the MOU then I thought you had to have the player by the deadline the previous year to go 8 years?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wonder if there are any pictures of a young Pietro all decked out in his TO Maple Leaf PJs...

He'll probably end up being Pajama Boy V2.0

Pajamgelo

[Moneyhands23]

Crickets

[Vinny01]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NHLRumors...20265297768452

This “insider” still thinks the Flames are trying to trade for a goalie and thinks they are a real suitor for Pietrangelo

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

https://mobile.twitter.com/NHLRumors...20265297768452

This “insider” still thinks the Flames are trying to trade for a goalie and thinks they are a real suitor for Pietrangelo

NRD really does seem dialled in. He’s hitting on things with regularity.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If we're using baseball metaphors:

- I'd say Frolik hit a double.
- Hudler hit a stand-up triple.
- Versteeg hit a bloop single and advanced to second on a fielding error by the Oilers.
- Engelland hit an infield single and barely beat the throw to first on a rough slide.
- Neal struck out looking at a 65 mph slider that the pitcher lost control of and put right down the middle.
- Brouwer hit a sac fly that got a runner to third, just in time for Neal to come up to the plate.
- Raymond hit a sac fly that got a runner to second, just in time for Brouwer to come up to the plate.
- Hiller hit a line drive to deep right-centre but got easily gunned out trying to advance to second.
- Derek Ryan was a leadoff batter who sliced one right down the line past the third baseman but ultimately got stranded on third.
- Austin Czarnik struck out but took a pitch that allowed Ryan to advance.

Giordano was an inside the part home run.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

NRD really does seem dialled in. He’s hitting on things with regularity.

He seems to have some legitimacy and gets really upset when people call him fake.

Personally I am all in on Markstrom and have zero desire to give up a 1st for Kuemper

[868904]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Later on it was Bertuzzi and Nolan

Owen Nolan was a great signing and one of my favourites. Wish there was a Nolan out there to sign this year.

Maybe if Simmonds came cheap.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You can, it’s just dumb. Which I think added something to the example.

It occasionally makes sense when the throw to first is offline and you slide to avoid the tag.

The problem with that is that the base runner often can’t see that the throw is offline and choose to slide until it is too late.


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[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You can, it’s just dumb. Which I think added something to the example.

Depends on the situation, if the throw is off-line and going to pull the first baseman off the bag towards the plate, then getting down to slide can make a tag out very difficult, also on a close play, some believe you can get there a fraction of a second quicker if you dive.

[TheScorpion]

I thought it made sense for Engelland to slide into first because that would probably hurt like hell but he probably wouldn't mind.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 868904

Owen Nolan was a great signing and one of my favourites. Wish there was a Nolan out there to sign this year.

Maybe if Simmonds came cheap.

Well, who is being bought out? That’s how the deal happened with Nolan. It was almost like a trade for nothing with Toronto retaining salary.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Naw Neal hit a fly ball to shallow centre, which was dropped,but Neal still got thrown on at first because he couldn’t be bothered to run it out.
Then he killed a puppy

Neal went 0 for 0 with 4 intentional walks, then got fooled by the old hidden ball trick all 4 times. Then he killed 2 puppies.

[TheScorpion]

Pretty sure it was Phoenix who bought out Nolan, not Toronto.

I could see Victor Rask being an attractive cheap option if/when Minnesota buys him out. He has ties to the area, too. Played for the Hitmen.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I thought it made sense for Engelland to slide into first because that would probably hurt like hell but he probably wouldn't mind.

Engelland got hit by a pitch, then beat up the pitcher and catcher

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Pretty sure it was Phoenix who bought out Nolan, not Toronto.

I could see Victor Rask being an attractive cheap option if/when Minnesota buys him out. He has ties to the area, too. Played for the Hitmen.

He played a one year contract with Phoenix before Calgary. But it was the Leafs who bought him out previously (technically they settled a dispute with him on the remainder of his contract - it wasn’t a CBA buyout). But looking back at at it, he wouldn’t have been under contract for the Leafs by the time he got to Calgary, so it was the Yotes that really got the benefit of the buyout, not the Flames.

[GioforPM]

Looking back I was never excited about Bertuzzi, Amonte or Nolan signing. I guess I thought in each case they were has-beens. I had a bit more excitement over Jagr because he’d defied the odds every year before then.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Link

The entire article discusses teams acquiring his rights meaning they’re allowed to sign him to 8 years - has this changed? I thought you had to have his rights prior to the trade deadline to do that.

Andy Strickland on Twitter backs this up - but says Pietrangelo owns a full-NTC so would have to waive for his rights to move.

LeBrun has updated the story. He clarifies the Blues need to sign and trade for another team to get 8 years.

[Monahammer]

Sign and trade seems like a huge headache and removes part of the benefit of getting Pietrangelo, which is 0 asset cost.

That 8th year would have to back dive hard to make the added cap hit benefit worthwhile, and I can't see how it wouldn't be labelled as circumvention. Doesn't really make sense to me tbh.