2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman rumors/speculation:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...d-trade-block/

on Dumba:
most obvious interest would come from Winnipeg, but they can't give up a centre unless another team is involved
Dumba is a fit for the Canucks but a centre won't be part of the return and not convinced they want give up Boeser
Calgary could give up a centre
Fenton tried to get Nylander but the Leafs weren't inclined then and probably still are not

Markstrom will condier giving up expansion draft protection in re-signing with Vancouver (so Canucks can protect Demko) but will want contract concessions in return.

New Panthers GM says that no one told him to cut payroll.
Friedman speculates Zito will listen on Barkov (but no chance he moves him), Ekblad, and Huberdeau. Will explore moving big tickets on blue line to create flexibility.

Calgary, Carolina, Chicago, Edmonton, and SJ have asked about Kuemper
Boston, Calgary, Edmonton have checked in on OEL.
Colorado (and probably more) has checked on Hjalmarson

Danault's name is out there and there is interest but not convinced Bergevin wants to move him

Habs considered Dubnyk before acquiring Allen.

Teams are waiting to see what TB might do to be cap compliant

Listening on Barkov hey....

Monahan Hanifin Mangiapane for Barkov Yandle

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

yup Tampa's big problem with clearing cap this summer is basically all of their mid-range forwards control their own destinies.

Palat - full NTC
Johnson - full NTC
Gourde - full NTC
Killorn - 16-team NTC

and even if they wanted to go bigger with a guy like Stamkos, he has a full NMC

They might control their own destinies, but Tampa still holds some cards.

Killorn can be moved to a team not on his list pretty easily. His salary is decent, his contract isn't loaded with bonuses and the term isn't too bad. Tampa's cap situation and teams tightening their budgets will make this more difficult and could result in the Bolts not getting much in return.

With Palat only having 2 years left on his deal, the Lightning would probably consider a buyout of he refuses to waive his NTC; I imagine being bought out in the current financial climate of the NHL is not all that desirable as there are a great deal of questions on how much teams will be willing to pay UFAs.

Then of course, they can also move Cirelli who is an RFA due to a big raise and he could return younger cost controlled players

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

If you are competing with the Jets on offering Ehlers or the Nucks offering Boesser then Monahan doesn't get it done. Minny would want Lindholm and let the Flames keep their strength at Centre.

Not surprising I completely disagree with you.

Monahan fits a need for Minnesota far more than Ehlers or Boeser. Don’t pretend Ehlers or Boeser are far more valuable trade assets than Monahan. Your boy Ehlers may have outscored Monahan by 10pts this year but Monahan outscored him by 45pts (which is 7 more than Ehlers for all season) in 18/19

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by JTech780

If we are going for it, the guy I would target is Kris Letang. Two more years at $7.25m, RHS D, he's a legit top pairing guy, great PP QB. He also brings Cup experience and leadership.

Dear God no! I want no part of Letang, especially with that contract. Fantastic offensive D man, brutal in his own zone. You can can get the same thing in bringing back Gus for a lot less money of get is what you want.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They won't. It is fun to watch the media spin all these rumours about Monahan and Gaudreau moving because it makes for plenty of clicks and attention for them. The reality is neither of those guys are moving his offseason, it isnt happening unless someone makes an offer BT can't refuse.

Yeah, if they can get something stupid for Gaudreau (ie Couturier) then maybe flip Monahan and sign Hall

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah remember when I said Gaudreau if available would be the most valuable player on the trade market...well there you have it

Except he really isn't. That is why no trade board has him listed. He wants to be here, Tre loves him and wants him to be here, only Eric Francis and a number of the fan base speculating ever had him being traded. Like I said, unless someone blows BT away he is not going to trade Johnny. Of course he will listen but the price to pry Gaudreau out of Calgary will be steep. A lot steeper than some on here are asking which adds up to peanuts.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Jets have a genuine interest in Dumba and wonders if a Wild could live with Ehlers as the return.

Ehlers and a small plus for Dumba could be a good deal for both clubs

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Canes getting many calls on James Reimer because his $2.25 million signing bonus has been paid out and is only owed $850k for the rest of the season.

Reimer to a few teams makes a ton of sense. The fact Reimer is only owed 850k would also make is super affordable for the Canes to eat 50% of his cap hit to increase his value and pool of teams interested as at a 1.7m cap hit and only 425k on actual dollars owning, that is a hell of a deal.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

One of Canes targets might be Kuemper and speculates Reimer plus another asset might be a fit for Arizona

The Coyotes are reportedly listing on any player over 25 and just signed Hill to a 1-way deal.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Devils are approaching a crossroads with Palmieri. Going to have to make a decision in the offseason of what they can re-sign Palmieri for vs what they can get for him in trade.

I've love Palmieri on the Flames.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Canucks think they might be finally be able to move Loui Eriksson who is owed only $5 million over the final 2 years of his contract.
Might entice a low salary team to bite if the Canucks include another asset.

I still think tis will cost the Canucks a pick/young player to offload the owing dollars.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I fully back the Dougie pick up. But agree 100% on Hamonic, and thinking about it has now ruined my day.

Sorry buddy.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dear God no! I want no part of Letang, especially with that contract. Fantastic offensive D man, brutal in his own zone. You can can get the same thing in bringing back Gus for a lot less money of get is what you want.

Letang is lightyears ahead of Gustafsson, they aren't even on the same level. Letang is solid in his own zone and plays 25mins a night. He plays in all situations. Letang would be far and away the best defenseman and probably the best player on the Flames.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Letang is lightyears ahead of Gustafsson, they aren't even on the same level. Letang is solid in his own zone and plays 25mins a night. He plays in all situations. Letang would be far and away the best defenseman and probably the best player on the Flames.

Letang has an 18 team NTC (18 teams he can go to). Also a NMC so he has to be protected.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Not surprising I completely disagree with you.

Monahan fits a need for Minnesota far more than Ehlers or Boeser. Don’t pretend Ehlers or Boeser are far more valuable trade assets than Monahan. Your boy Ehlers may have outscored Monahan by 10pts this year but Monahan outscored him by 45pts (which is 7 more than Ehlers for all season) in 18/19

I got the sense from listening to Russo talk that the Wild want Monahan. Also sounds like the Wild specifically want a centre. So any suggestion that the Flames can't compete with other teams offering wingers seems baseless.

[Macindoc]

[QUOTE=Flash Walken;7576595]Monahan for Dumba/QUOTE]
1C for 4D? Only if you're trying to win the next draft lottery. If you must, try Backlund for Dumba, but then you still have to protect him at the draft lottery.

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

19th overall for Kuemper

Why are you trying to trade away a 1st when your other trades look like you're trying to win the turtle race?

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Gaudreau for Domi+

Maybe if the + is a 1st.

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Hanifin for OEL+

Team-friendly contract vs. maybe the worst contract in the league in a few years, the + would have to be something like taking Lucic off our hands.

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Sign hall

So if you add Dumba, Koemper, Domi, and OEL, where does the cap space come from to add Hall?

Overall, your proposed trades leave us without a 1C and with too many D to protect in the expansion draft, and then there is the loss of the 1st. Furthermore, if we can't afford Hall, we are down two top three forwards when we really need to add at least one.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Letang has an 18 team NTC (18 teams he can go to). Also a NMC so he has to be protected.

The NTC could be an issue for sure. The NMC wouldn't be an issue for the expansion draft, just protect Letang, Hanifin and Andersson and leave Giordano unprotected, with the understanding that an expansion team isn't going to take a 37 year old defenseman making $6.75m.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Letang is lightyears ahead of Gustafsson, they aren't even on the same level. Letang is solid in his own zone and plays 25mins a night. He plays in all situations. Letang would be far and away the best defenseman and probably the best player on the Flames.

Strongly disagree. You need to watch more Pens games or talk to some Pens fans, Letang is definitely not solid in his own zone. I am not even sure he is better than Gus defensively. Good for at least a couple really bad blunders a game that either lead to a scoring opportunity or a goal against. He would not even be the 5th best player on the Flames.

[Bonded]

I don't hate a Hanifin for a Domi swap

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don't hate a Hanifin for a Domi swap

Expansion draft complication that is.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Expansion draft complication that is.

I don't think Tre is as worried about the expansion as everyone else on this board is. Flames are going to lose a good player one way or the other, Bennett, Mangi, Dube... or whatever. As long as they keep accumulating skill, it won't make that much of a difference in the long run.

[Harry Lime]

Habs fans don't like Danault's attitude, where he thinks of himself as a #1 centre, even though he is about Backlund level. Personally, I love that attitude as long as any kind of demotion leads to 'chip on shoulder' instead of pouting.

Considering Danault has been rumored to be moving, and it is a very deep second round for defensemen, would Danault + all three Hab seconds (47,48 and 56) be a good trade for Gaudreau?

It would open up the possibility of a Monahan trade, and let Danault prove his claims on the ice (for at least a season).

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Habs fans don't like Danault's attitude, where he thinks of himself as a #1 centre, even though he is about Backlund level. Personally, I love that attitude as long as any kind of demotion leads to 'chip on shoulder' instead of pouting.

Considering Danault has been rumored to be moving, and it is a very deep second round for defensemen, would Danault + all three Hab seconds (47,48 and 56) be a good trade for Gaudreau?

It would open up the possibility of a Monahan trade, and let Danault prove his claims on the ice (for at least a season).

That would be an epic fail of a Gaudreau trade IMO. One middle 6 roster player and a bunch of scratch tickets. C'mon.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Habs fans don't like Danault's attitude, where he thinks of himself as a #1 centre, even though he is about Backlund level. Personally, I love that attitude as long as any kind of demotion leads to 'chip on shoulder' instead of pouting.

Considering Danault has been rumored to be moving, and it is a very deep second round for defensemen, would Danault + all three Hab seconds (47,48 and 56) be a good trade for Gaudreau?

It would open up the possibility of a Monahan trade, and let Danault prove his claims on the ice (for at least a season).

Gross. Get some real quality. A soon to be UFA center and three seconds is one of the worst quantity versus quality deals I have seen. We do not need two Backlunds clogging up cap space either.