2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Elliot stirs the pot and the mob comes out. Always get a chuckle reading the ‘I’m going to lose it’ posts.

Relax, sheeple.

Good one.

So the official rules of this thread are:
- no discussing rumours or trade speculation that do not arise from a professional journalist.
- no discussing rumours raised by professional journalists.

Got it.

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Good one.

So the official rules of this thread are:
- no discussing rumours or trade speculation that do not arise from a professional journalist.
- no discussing rumours raised by professional journalists.

Got it.

- no discussing what we're supposed to discuss or not discuss please

[TheScorpion]

According to the Athletic's Hailey Salvian, Mark Borowiecki is testing the waters of UFA after 10 years with the Sens.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Icon

- no discussing what we're supposed to discuss or not discuss please

I think you mean "Baaaaaa Baaaaa... Baaaaaa"

"Mob" and "sheeple" came at me so hard I got knocked into thinking this was a political thread.

[Vinny01]

Eklund is saying there is a battle of Alberta for the rights to Murray.

[Saqe]

Much rather Murray than Kuemper.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I may look dumb in 5 years but I'm just playing the odds. Unless they are a surefire knockout, obvious pick, you don't draft goaltenders in the 1st round.

Askarov is the most hyped goalie prospect since Carey Price

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Much rather Murray than Kuemper.

Outside of cost to acquire, I don’t see why anyone would want Murray over Kuemper.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Neither sounds particularly appealing to me at the moment, especially considering cost.


Murray has won 2 cups and has looked fantastic... but for two consecutive seasons he has looked - at best - pedestrian. Rumours that he just isn't the same after his injury scare me.


Kuemper looks like the real deal, but so do a lot of goalies over the years for a short period of time. Is he the real deal, or just another Elliott? Or worse, another Jim Carey. I don't know.


I am pretty negative on goalies right now, however. Ask me about any goaltender, and I seem only able to see the downside. Heck, I will find something negative about Price and fixate on it for weeks even if the Habs retain 50% and it only cost the Flames future considerations. That's where I am at when it comes to goalies at the moment.

[BrennyBaller]

A bit off topic from the goalie discussion, but the more I think about it, the more I think a Gaudreau for Forsberg trade seems reasonable. Both teams can't get over the hump, but aren't in a position to rebuild.

Who would have to add, if anyone with a trade surrounding these two?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Outside of cost to acquire, I don’t see why anyone would want Murray over Kuemper.

4 year age gap helps too. Also being RFa with a weak arbitration case.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Outside of cost to acquire, I don’t see why anyone would want Murray over Kuemper.

Murray is 26 to Kuemper's 30, which is a huge difference as far as goaltenders go

Murray also carried the Penguins to 2 Cups in recent history.

Not sure I want either given the acquisition cost, but I don't think Murray is a crazy suggestion.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Neither sounds particularly appealing to me at the moment, especially considering cost.


Murray has won 2 cups and has looked fantastic... but for two consecutive seasons he has looked - at best - pedestrian. Rumours that he just isn't the same after his injury scare me.


Kuemper looks like the real deal, but so do a lot of goalies over the years for a short period of time. Is he the real deal, or just another Elliott? Or worse, another Jim Carey. I don't know.


I am pretty negative on goalies right now, however. Ask me about any goaltender, and I seem only able to see the downside. Heck, I will find something negative about Price and fixate on it for weeks even if the Habs retain 50% and it only cost the Flames future considerations. That's where I am at when it comes to goalies at the moment.

How does a 30 year old goalie who has only recently put up a season and a half of starter quality game, appear to be the “real deal”.

He’s good, but Murray is the obvious choice between the two for a handful of reasons.

[dammage79]

Murray is definitely a target, but not for a 1st. Unless its conditional (can they still add conditions?) And 2021.

Unless they deal Gaudreau for a high pick, then yeah I suppose 19 could go. But I still don't like it.

[David Struch]

Treliving wasn't able to get Alexander Edler but maybe he'd be interested in another type of veteran Swedish defensemen in Niklas Hjalmarsson?

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Murray is definitely a target, but not for a 1st. Unless its conditional (can they still add conditions?) And 2021.

Unless they deal Gaudreau for a high pick, then yeah I suppose 19 could go. But I still don't like it.

I think Kuemper would also make more sense with a conditional pick.
Based off of his games played, or whether he re-signs after a year.

What would your condition on Murray be?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Murray is definitely a target, but not for a 1st. Unless its conditional (can they still add conditions?) And 2021.

Unless they deal Gaudreau for a high pick, then yeah I suppose 19 could go. But I still don't like it.

I agree. He isn’t worth any more than his offer sheet compensation would be..
Which, I’m guess would be in the 2nd rounder range. Unless there was a condition to sign. Even then, not a first

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Kuemper would also make more sense with a conditional pick.
Based off of his games played, or whether he re-signs after a year.

What would your condition on Murray be?

Games played. If he can't play 35 games, turns into a 2nd. Although O don't think with the ratified new CBA those kind of conditions can be applied to a pick.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by AC

Murray is 26 to Kuemper's 30, which is a huge difference as far as goaltenders go

Murray also carried the Penguins to 2 Cups in recent history.

Not sure I want either given the acquisition cost, but I don't think Murray is a crazy suggestion.

I don't think the Penguins get past the Capitals with Murray in net in 2017 actually. MAF stole that series a la Halak in 2010.

[dammage79]

Whats the offer sheet for Murray that the pens would turn down? 4m a year? 5?