2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I don't see Pelletier as a core player or an unmovable asset.

Hes a left shot LW who I don't think has top line upside. Not in a hurry to trade him or anything, but I'd package him up for a long term upgrade somewhere else on the roster without hesitation if the opportunity presented itself.

I'm intrigued by Pelletier.

He has comparable production profile on NHLES to guys like Oshie and Gallagher, who maybe aren't true top line guys but real strong support pieces.

Also watching the highlights and some of his play last season and I see a guy who's game looks like it would translate to the NHL. He's not a guy that producing in ways that don't translate, it's using his skating and hockey sense to make strong plays.

You see it a lot in his highlights. He has speed and puck skills but it's the stuff like knowing when to stay back and support the d-man and then smartly creeping in to get a chance, knowing how to sneak away from coverage to open up a shooting lane, and he's not afraid to go to the dirty areas of the ice.

He just does lots of the little things that effective forwards at the NHL level do. I wouldn't be shocked if he surprises people at training camp next season.

He did struggle a bit after his injury last season, but up until that point he was dynamite and one of the best players in the CHL.

[Flash Walken]

Textcritic saying Monahan and gaudreau aren't top players is a take I did not expect to read today.

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I kinda view the impact Pelletier may have similar to Mangiapane, which is fine, and maybe there's a higher ceiling there to boot. Related to the above points, at this stage I'm fine with him as a trade piece, or look forward to seeing what he can continue to develop towards.

[Moneyhands23]

I cant imagine trading Pelletier. If I have learned anything over the last 20 years of watching the flames, it's that we need our 1st rounders on the damn team. Trading 1sts or young talent has cost us time and time again.

Or hey...just trade him and our upcoming 1st so we can continue with having 5 playoff series wins for the next 25 years.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Textcritic saying Monahan and gaudreau aren't top players is a take I did not expect to read today.

All that time off you took from the Board certainly didn't improve your reading skills. I never said that Monahan and Gaudreau are not top players.

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[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Textcritic saying Monahan and gaudreau aren't top players is a take I did not expect to read today.

Miiight wanna work on your reading skills

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I think that a lot of the Flames ( or all NHL teams for that matter) decision making this off season will relate to the salary cap. Bottom line is the Flames need players on ELCs to take up roster spots. Also the Fact that he is exempt from the expansion draft increases his value.

If the Flames are going to move a left winger it should be Mangiapane. He is undersized and shoots left. Moreover he is due for a pay raise this off season. I think he holds a lot of value and can help bring in someone who addresses the Flames needs.

The Flames need to make some difficult choices, and right now a lot of that is trenched in the fact that the Flames have poor cap space, and about 4 bloated contracts they can't realistically move - Ryan, Backlund, Gio and Lucic.

Mangiapane is my dark horse trade chip. Would be hugely unpopular, but he seems to be an asset that we have a surplus of. That being small skilled highly competitive (Dube, Phillips, Peltier).

Mentioned it a few days ago, but I would explore moving him for Josh Anderson. Have to know about Anderson’s shoulder though.

[TheScorpion]

Mangiapane for Anderson doesn't seem like a very good trade. Anderson is three years older and has a lot more uncertainty regarding his future. Mangiapane seems like a good bet to surpass Anderson's production pretty quickly here.

[Dragomir]

Why are we talking about trading our best young players when this team needs a rebuild? Do people really want more first round exits or 9th place finishes?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Miiight wanna work on your reading skills

Ah, ok. They shouldn't be expected to be offensive leaders because they aren't paid like top players.

Got it.

[Roof-Daddy]

What about something around Mangiapane plus something else for Josh Anderson and Joonis Korpisalo?

Maybe you attach a pick to Mangiapane that is conditional on Anderson's performance/games played/etc?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

Why are we talking about trading our best young players when this team needs a rebuild? Do people really want more first round exits or 9th place finishes?

They may need to rebuild in some of our eyes, but it's very unlikely they pull the trigger on it.

More likely they shuffle the chairs around, so that's what we're discussing.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

What about something around Mangiapane plus something else for Josh Anderson and Joonis Korpisalo?

Maybe you attach a pick to Mangiapane that is conditional on Anderson's performance/games played/etc?

Yes please. I'd offer up Ritter and 2020 2nd on top of Mangiapnae.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Hopefully somewhere right now big Buff is getting in shape and planning to come back, he'd be awesome to sign for 1 year around $2-3 million IMO.

The only shape Buff is getting in is more round. He is done. Probably 350lbs right now.

[SuperMatt18]

I don't get why people keep including Mangiapane in trade rumors.

In terms of 200ft play he's been one of our best forwards the last two seasons.

Yet people keep including him in trades that aren't really upgrades, or as a throw in on a bigger deal. Makes no sense.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't get why people keep including Mangiapane in trade rumors.

In terms of 200ft play he's been one of our best forwards the last two seasons.

Yet people keep including him in trades that aren't really upgrades, or as a throw in on a bigger deal. Makes no sense.

The only way I would trade him is if his contract demands don't fit with our cap going forward.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Mangiapane for Anderson doesn't seem like a very good trade. Anderson is three years older and has a lot more uncertainty regarding his future. Mangiapane seems like a good bet to surpass Anderson's production pretty quickly here.

Few things to consider; we know Treliving is interested in the player. He is a big RHS forward which they have coveted. How does he slot in on the right side with Gaudreau and Monahan? I believe he scored his 27 playing with Panarin. There could be reason to think he could duplicate that.

Honestly, I like the look of this top six:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Anderson
Tkachuk-Backlund-Lindholm

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Mangiapane is my dark horse trade chip. Would be hugely unpopular, but he seems to be an asset that we have a surplus of. That being small skilled highly competitive (Dube, Phillips, Peltier).

Mentioned it a few days ago, but I would explore moving him for Josh Anderson. Have to know about Anderson’s shoulder though.

Maybe not Anderson, but I'd definitely consider looking at Mangiapane as an asset to try improve the team via trade.

I like Mangiapane, don't get me wrong, but to your point, we basically had a smallish player on every line (gaudreau, mangiapane, Dube, reider). Dube plays bigger than the other guys, and Mangiapane's hustle/effort make him quite effective. However, I'd love to see a strong winger with some skill playing along side Tkachuk or Bennett next season. Also, Mangiapane has risen his stock year after year, hat should be a valued asset on the trade wire.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The only shape Buff is getting in is more round. He is done. Probably 350lbs right now.

Haha, I been waiting since I posted that for someone to make the round is a shape reference. I left the door wide open.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

So with Jake Allen and his 4mil dollar cap hit going to Montreal does this mean price is on the move. Cant have that much money in goaltending

My guess is no.

I think the Habs just want insurance in case Price goes down. Allen is only ok that cap hit for one more year. They saw they could compete against the Pens with the team they have so my guess is they’re going to want to be competing again.