2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd gamble on Konecny for Gaudreau trade unless the Flames could somehow pry out Couturier. Would balance out our top 6 pretty well.

Agreed. We would clearly have a new top line, not sure the second line would click though...

Tkachuk Backlund Konecny
Mangiapane Monahan Lindholm
Lucic Bennett Dube
______ Ryan Rieder
Robinson


I would still try to flip Monahan for Cozens and the 8th in this scenario
Take a step back for a year, but aim to be loaded upfront in 2 years

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Was not aware of that Konecny tidbit. That is the deal that makes the most sense to me and if it is one for one I think Philly wins the trade.

It's a decent trade considering age and contract. $5.5m until 2025 with 4 years under his belt and only 23? Almost PPG this year. RHS to boot.

And a guy with real speed, which this team lacks outside of Dube and Reider.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by AC

I posted this in the Philly thread, but probably better suited for the actual trade discussion thread:

If Philly fizzles out here I wonder if Konecny is a viable return for Gaudreau after all.....

IMHO, if the Flames are indeed shipping Johnny to Philly, it should be for Couturier or bust. You even add a pick or a prospect to get that deal done. Backlund is not a #2C on a team who is going to win a cup.

Couturier - Monahan - Backlund would be formidable down the middle. Lindholm, Tkachuk, Dube, Mangiapane, Bennett, Hall (??) is very good for wingers. I'd be comfortable with that group going forward even if we didn't land Hall.

[Roof-Daddy]

I like Konecny, and I get that his age and contract are positives on his side of the scale, but I would bet Philly ends up coming out on top in a Gaudreau/Konecny swap.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You also said you would buy him out so nobody here gives a rats ass what you think in regards to Monahan.

Why are you always so angry? As a poster, he has a right to post a proposal in the "Trade Speculation" thread. It doesn't matter what someone has said in the past, move on.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I like Konecny, and I get that his age and contract are positives on his side of the scale, but I would bet Philly ends up coming out on top in a Gaudreau/Konecny swap.

Gamble for the Flames for sure, I'd rather target Couturier but I doubt they move him. If Konency stays at a PPG, I think it is pretty even.

[AC]

Problem with targeting Couturier is he's in the same boat as Gaudreau; 27 years old, 2 years remaining then a UFA.

I view moving Gaudreau like I do with the Hamilton trade. It's important to acquire 1 or 2 assets to join the core for an extended period of time.

Is Phillipe Myers an impossibility? 6'5" right shot RD coming off his ELC.

Gaudreau and Kylington for Konecny and Myers?

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So the guy comes out and says he loves it in Calgary, he wants to stay, his gf likes it in Calgary, and you are going to spin this crap argument to suit your agenda because you don't like the player. I am really tired of posts like this, people making bs up to fit their narrative. Is that you Eric Francis? Just another garbage post.

Relax dude no need to get upset when posters bring up Johnny in a trade.

[Manhattanboy]

Do it Tre. Do it within five minutes of PHI being bounced from the playoffs.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I like Konecny, and I get that his age and contract are positives on his side of the scale, but I would bet Philly ends up coming out on top in a Gaudreau/Konecny swap.

I agree I think Konecny is a great player but will not be as good as Johnny has been. I would like the Flyers to add to that deal but you would have a legion of Flyers fans that wouldn’t want to do the trade straight up.

$1.25M in cap savings and 3 additional years of team control. One player is 23 with 3 straight years of 24 goals and career high of 61pts this year. The other is a 27 year old with a career low 58pts coming off a career high 99.

One for one is a risky deal for both sides but if the Flames think Konecny is still ascending then it makes sense. If Flyers really want their hometown star player the deal makes sense for them as well.

Johnny had 7pts in 10 playoff games this year and has 19pts in 30 career games.

Konecny has 4pts (0 goals) in 13 games this year and 5pts in 19 career playoff games.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by AC

Problem with targeting Couturier is he's in the same boat as Gaudreau; 27 years old, 2 years remaining then a UFA.

I view moving Gaudreau like I do with the Hamilton trade. It's important to acquire 1 or 2 assets to join the core for an extended period of time.

Is Phillipe Myers an impossibility? 6'5" right shot RD coming off his ELC.

Gaudreau and Kylington for Konecny and Myers?

I agree, but that’s the only reason I think they could be able to add him. Because Philly is in the same re-sign scenario we are. And would have insider knowledge on his appetite to sign there again.

[Harry Lime]

If Couturier is in play, I'd put them as frontrunners for a Gaudreau trade, but if it's any other player (or set of players), I would put them behind Jersey in terms of best value pieces coming back.

Johnny as a UFA has a very small chance of re-signing in Calgary, whereas with Couturier I think that it would just come down to money and term, which is fine.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I have come to peace with trading Gaudreau, however if we are going to get a first rounder and another teams spare parts I would just keep him and let him walk in 2022.

I like the Konecny return. It is decent but we would still lose that trade IMO.

I would also target Nashville. Poile like to make blockbusters and I wonder if we could pry out Forsberg.

[Poe969]

I think if they trade Johnny, they should target a young C or prospect that has potential to be a #1C. If they trade Monahan, they have to target a C prospect. This team's weakness is down the middle, they should be strengthening that position as much as possible. If they want to actually contend, they need to get better at C and G, the wings will take care of themselves and a good C will make their wingers better.

[Bonded]

I'd take Konecny over Forsberg.

What about Monahan + Gaudreau for Konency, Couturier, and Myers.
That would be a heck of a shake up haha

[the_only_turek_fan]

Just spitballing here but Guadreau for Johnathan Huberdeau?

Florida is another team that could be in for a shake up.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by AC

Problem with targeting Couturier is he's in the same boat as Gaudreau; 27 years old, 2 years remaining then a UFA.

I view moving Gaudreau like I do with the Hamilton trade. It's important to acquire 1 or 2 assets to join the core for an extended period of time.

Is Phillipe Myers an impossibility? 6'5" right shot RD coming off his ELC.

Gaudreau and Kylington for Konecny and Myers?

I do think Myers play in the postseason takes him off the table. I think Philly keeps him, Sanheim and Provorov as their core 3 of the future. I would think you could have anyone else. They would love to move Ghostisbere but then the Flames need to include more salary out in that deal unless they think Ghost is a good fit on the second pair?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Just spitballing here but Guadreau for Johnathan Huberdeau?

Florida is another team that could be in for a shake up.

That's change for the sake of change. I'm not sure why we would do these types of trades as it doesn't improve the team in any meaningful way.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So the guy comes out and says he loves it in Calgary, he wants to stay, his gf likes it in Calgary, and you are going to spin this crap argument to suit your agenda because you don't like the player. I am really tired of posts like this, people making bs up to fit their narrative. Is that you Eric Francis? Just another garbage post.

I like Gaudreau. I have the jersey he wore when he got his first hat trick. I hope he stays a Flame for his whole career. Unfortunately, I don't think he will. From talking to someone in his camp, I would be greatly surprised if he remains in Calgary long term. There are three ideal teams from his point of view. Playoff success would go a long way in keeping him though.

[Roof-Daddy]

I know people seem to think Couturier is an untouchable entity, but I don't agree.

I think a Gaudreau for Couturier trade would be a pretty solid trade for both teams.

Both the same age, both scheduled to be UFAs in the same off season, Couturier is a better all round player and a center, but Gaudreau has offensive talent that Couturier cannot come close to. Plus he's a marketing dream for the Flyers.