2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[bax]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'm more than ok with the idea of signing a depth dman to the league-minimum as long as it's not Luca Sbisa.

Haha that is fair- really any veteran depth d-man willing to sign for cheap would do.

[Roof-Daddy]

I like the idea of adding Carson Soucy as a depth Dman. Big, strong physical Dman, Alberta boy and could probably be had for close to league minimum.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I like the idea of adding Carson Soucy as a depth Dman. Big, strong physical Dman, Alberta boy and could probably be had for close to league minimum.

I didn't even realize he was a UFA. That would be a great pick up actually. He's very solid on the bottom pairing.

[AC]

Yeah I brought up Soucy before as he's a UFA due to a bit of a loophole.

Saw Minnesota reporters kind of upset about the risk of losing him. Also saw the suggestion that he has awful advanced stats? I'm not sure but sounds like there's a lot to like.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I like the idea of adding Carson Soucy as a depth Dman. Big, strong physical Dman, Alberta boy and could probably be had for close to league minimum.

Originally Posted by bax

I didn't even realize he was a UFA. That would be a great pick up actually. He's very solid on the bottom pairing.

Originally Posted by AC

Yeah I brought up Soucy before as he's a UFA due to a bit of a loophole.

Saw Minnesota reporters kind of upset about the risk of losing him. Also saw the suggestion that he has awful advanced stats? I'm not sure but sounds like there's a lot to like.

Among regular Wild d-men this year, Soucy ranked:

- last in Rel CF% (-4.24)
- last in Rel FF% (-3.41)
- last in Rel SF% (-3.48)
- last in Rel SCF% (-3.37)
- 2nd last in Rel HDCF% (-2.29)
- 2nd last in Rel xGF% (-2.70)

He did provide some legitimate value on the PK, but still ranked 5th among Wild D-men in PK time. Plus you don't want to waste a roster spot on a guy who only provides some value on the PK but is a complete trainwreck 5v5

[Roof-Daddy]

4th for Halls rights, sign him 6 x $7,750,000
Gaudreau, Bennett, Kylington for Couturier, Gostisbehere, 2nd
Hanifin for Zacha, Carrick
Monahan, 19th overall for Ristolainen, Thompson, 8th overall

Draft Hendrix Lapierre at 8th overall (Bergeron comp)

Sign Lievo 1 x $1,700,000
Sign Soucy 1 x $800k
Sign Reider 1 x $750k
Sign Talbot 2 x $3,500,000
Sign Mangi 2 x $2,500,000
Sign Thompson 1 x $874k (QO)
Sign Gawdin 1 x $787k (QO)



Hall - Couturier - Lindholm
Mangi - Backlund - Tkachuk
Dube - Zacha - Lievo
Lucic - Ryan - Thompson

Gawdin, Reider

Giordano - Ristolainen
Gostisbehere - Andersson
Valimaki - Carrick

Soucy

Talbot
Rittich

$890k cap space left

Not a fan of Risto really, but he's big, can skate, logs minutes, and produces offense. He and Ghost might turn our end into a tire fire, but they'd put up points lol

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by bax

Ran through the Flames off-season on CapFriendly- tough to gauge salaries with COVID and a flat cap, but here is what I came up with. Go easy on me.

Derek Ryan to LA for a 4th and a 5th (could be any team)
Rittich to Minny for a 2nd and 3rd (again, could be any team in need of a goalie)
Georgiev to Calgary for a 2nd and 3rd and sign for 2 years x 2.125

Sign Hall 7 years x 8.25
Sign Demelo 3 years x 1.9
Sign Logan Shaw 1 year x 0.75
Sign Sbisa 1 year x 0.7

Re-sign Gawdin 1 year x 0.7
Re-sign Kylington 2 years x 0.85
Re-sign Rieder 1 year x 0.7
Re-sign Mangiapane 3 years x 3.25

Hall - Bennett - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dube - Backlund - Mangiapane
Lucic - Shaw - Rieder
Gawdin

Hanifin - Andersson
Giordano - Demelo
Valimaki - Sbisa
Kylington - Yeselin

Talbot
Georgiev

Gives the Flames two top tier scoring and a real solid third line as well. Ideally you would want a better d-man to pair with Valimaki- maybe there is somebody better out there you can find for cheap. To me Demelo is kind of like a Brodie lite. Bennett and Backlund can be swapped depending on who is going.

80.9 cap hit including buy outs.

Love those forward lines. Adding Hall would really changes the dynamic of our team. After a few days to let the dust settle, I'm thinking we give this group another go if we can add that superstar forward to take the pressure off Gaudreau and Monahan. Putting Backlund with Mangi and Dube is a great idea.

Defense maybe looks a bit weak, and I'd really like to see Gustaffson back, he made a huge impact on the PP. Question will really be seeing where Valimaki is at, he is the one guy that could either make that a solid defence or alternatively lacking some top end talent.

[sa226]

If the Flames are retooling and losing Brodie, I don't understand why anyone is in a rush to trade Hanifin.

Young, cost controlled, improving etc.

We all wish he showed a little more flare, especially after watching Heiskanen. If you trade a guy like that you're just going to spend a few years trying to replace him.

I know he was almost traded earlier, but this year is not next year.

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[HighLifeMan]

- Trade Gaudreau for Philippe Myers, Morgan Frost and a 1st.
- Sign Hall - 8Mx7years
- Trade Jankowski for a late pick / do not qualify
- Sign Jesper Fast 2.0Mx4years
- Sign Dylan Demelo 3.0Mx4 years
- Kylington and Rittich for Matt Murray (sign 5years x 4.75M)
- Sign Aaron Dell - 1 year - 1.5M

Taylor Hall - Sean Monahan - Dillon Dube
Matt Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Elias Lindholm
Andrew Mangiapane - Mikael Backlund - Jesper Fast
Milan Lucic - Morgan Frost - Derek Ryan


Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson
Mark Giordano - Phillipe Myers
Jusso Valimaki - Dylan Demelo

Matt Murray
Aaron Dell

2Mish in capspace remaining for extra forward and defensemen.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

4th for Halls rights, sign him 6 x $7,750,000
Gaudreau, Bennett, Kylington for Couturier, Gostisbehere, 2nd
Hanifin for Zacha, Carrick
Monahan, 19th overall for Ristolainen, Thompson, 8th overall

Draft Hendrix Lapierre at 8th overall (Bergeron comp)

Sign Lievo 1 x $1,700,000
Sign Soucy 1 x $800k
Sign Reider 1 x $750k
Sign Talbot 2 x $3,500,000
Sign Mangi 2 x $2,500,000
Sign Thompson 1 x $874k (QO)
Sign Gawdin 1 x $787k (QO)



Hall - Couturier - Lindholm
Mangi - Backlund - Tkachuk
Dube - Zacha - Lievo
Lucic - Ryan - Thompson

Gawdin, Reider

Giordano - Ristolainen
Gostisbehere - Andersson
Valimaki - Carrick

Soucy

Talbot
Rittich

$890k cap space left

Not a fan of Risto really, but he's big, can skate, logs minutes, and produces offense. He and Ghost might turn our end into a tire fire, but they'd put up points lol

LOL if we get 8th overall and use it to draft Lapierre it will be a total fail. Lapierre is likely to be there at 19. If we are trading up using Monahan, we best secure someone with much more likelihood of being a #1C, not a project with open injury questions!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

LOL if we get 8th overall and use it to draft Lapierre it will be a total fail. Lapierre is likely to be there at 19. If we are trading up using Monahan, we best secure someone with much more likelihood of being a #1C, not a project with open injury questions!

Yeah, that seems like a guy you take a flyer on with the Flames pick. High risk/High Reward

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

LOL if we get 8th overall and use it to draft Lapierre it will be a total fail. Lapierre is likely to be there at 19. If we are trading up using Monahan, we best secure someone with much more likelihood of being a #1C, not a project with open injury questions!

I'm no expert, but we'll see if he is there at 19. By the sounds of it he'd be top 10 without question if he wasn't injured for a good portion of the year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'm no expert, but we'll see if he is there at 19. By the sounds of it he'd be top 10 without question if he wasn't injured for a good portion of the year.

Yeah but his injuries are concussions and vertebrae. Big risk there. I wouldn't be shocked if he was gone before 19, seems like a decent risk once you get into the mid first round.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I think he goes in the 15-22 range. Funny enough in my aggregated list, that I used for the CPHL draft, he landed right at 19.
In our actual draft he went 15.
Bob also had him at 15.
So he very well may not be there at 19 for the Flames, but you wouldn't need to move up to top 10 to get him.

[Cobra]

Time to blow up the core.
Trade:
Johnny 6,750,000 (for 2 more years)
Backlund 5,350,000 (for 4 more years....ugh)
Ryan 3,125,000 (for 1 more year)
Rittich 2,750,000
Janko RFA
This is a 17,975,000 savings and gets rid of 5 soft non-playoff performers.
BT has already squandered any value for Brodie and Hamonic so lets not bring them or Forbot and Gustaffson back.
Lines as follows:
Chucky Monahan Mangy
Dube Bennett Lindholm
?? ?? ??
Lucic Gadwin Reider
Robinson/Phillips
DEF
Gio ??
Hanifin Anderson
Vallamaki ??
Kylington
Goal
?? ??
Gives you lots of assets from the trades and frees up some cash to fill up some holes.

[Jiri Hrdina]

^Why is Backlund on your list of "soft non playoff performers"?

[Cobra]

Because he is soft.....10 years of no playoff success.
You at CP seem to value him so much he should get you assets.
We need to change.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Define "soft".

[Cobra]

Not at all hard to play against, not a good face-off man, terrible till #19 came along, part of the core that needs to change

[1qqaaz]

I thought Backlund was fantastic against Winnipeg