2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Florida might be a team to target. They are looking to make changes and I would hope we pounce on the opportunity to acquire a big name player like Barkov while they get acclimated with a new GM in there. Kind of what we did with Hamilton/Sweeney.

Well, Calgary is a team that is likely looking to make changes in the offseason, would that mean that Tkachuk is available?


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[Lanny_McDonald]

Everyone should be available. Tkachuk should not be excluded in any shape or form. If people want to look at performers that disappear in the post season, look no further than Matty. He's been a disappointment. No more than most of the team, but performances that are forgettable.

[bubbsy]

Yes, tkachuk has been a no show for his playoff career. But there's room to grow for the team's leading scorer and emotional captain.

Tkachuk, Andersson, valimaki, Dube, Bennett, maybe backlund. That is the core. Everybody else should be viewed as a tradeable asset.

I think ward is a coach I'd be willing to see given an opportunity, unless we can get one of the big fish.

I'd also like to see a new gm with an actual blueprint to build a winner. Not a guy who's willing to trade high picks (for Travis frigin hamonic) after the slightest upward trajectory of a rebuilding young team.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by New Era

Everyone should be available. Tkachuk should not be excluded in any shape or form. If people want to look at performers that disappear in the post season, look no further than Matty. He's been a disappointment. No more than most of the team, but performances that are forgettable.

That’s completely unfair.

There will be times when guys aren’t putting up points. It happens to everyone. However, it’s what they’re doing when they’re cold. Matty fought Wheeler and Perry, winning both. He also laid some big hits and is never a defensive liability. He’s also the loudest guy on the bench.

He’s the future captain of this team.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Florida might be a team to target. They are looking to make changes and I would hope we pounce on the opportunity to acquire a big name player like Barkov while they get acclimated with a new GM in there. Kind of what we did with Hamilton/Sweeney.

Have a hard time the Panthers have any interest in moving Barkov.

Friedman spoke about this on a recent podcast after Talon was let go. Part of coach Q going there was he is going to have a say in roster decisions. He worked closely with Ekblad and Barkov.

[Roof-Daddy]

I love Tkachuk but I'd trade him in a heartbeat if it brought us a true #1 C that a contender can be built around.

Does no one remember what happened the last time we tried to build around a winger when the center depth is questionable at best?

Monahan is a good quality player, but he's not an elite #1C. If you had 3 of him you might be OK as long as none of them are making elite money, but what we do have is a 30+ year old Backlund who is a poor mans Krejci, Bennett, who despite his strong play in the playoffs again, struggles to break 20-30 points over a full regular season, and finally a 34 year old Derek Ryan.

The team also has no #1 Dman to build around anymore, and no #1 goalie either.

[1qqaaz]

I think Andersson has passed Tkachuk and Lindholm as the person who would be the least likely to be traded.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

They were reactionary (to the injuries of Gio and Ham), and were definitely “Plan B”. “Plan A” was Taylor Hall. We know Tree was in on it.

...wasting a 3rd and a 4th round pick on 17-20 games of bottom pair defencemen. That’s bad management.

Way too much negative emotion. This team had to push for the playoffs and made a move using one of their 2 3rds and a 4th to add guys that fill a need and a hole. It allows for Valimaki to be safely buried so they do not make him expansion draft eligible.

When your team is in a playoff push you add depth where it is required and Tre did so without trading a 1st or 2nd.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Andersson has passed Tkachuk and Lindholm as the person who would be the least likely to be traded.

Given the rapid decline of Gio I would imagine the only expendable defenseman under contract may be Kylington. The team as-is with all the pending ufa defensemen will likely be adding to the blueline not subtracting.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I love Tkachuk but I'd trade him in a heartbeat if it brought us a true #1 C that a contender can be built around.

Does no one remember what happened the last time we tried to build around a winger when the center depth is questionable at best?

Monahan is a good quality player, but he's not an elite #1C. If you had 3 of him you might be OK as long as none of them are making elite money, but what we do have is a 30+ year old Backlund who is a poor mans Krejci, Bennett, who despite his strong play in the playoffs again, struggles to break 20-30 points over a full regular season, and finally a 34 year old Derek Ryan.

The team also has no #1 Dman to build around anymore, and no #1 goalie either.

There are not many players I would trade Tkachuk for.

This team has 4 D under 24 and 2 that are already in the top 4 and Valimaki has the highest ceiling of all of them. Andersson has been great in these playoffs.

This team hasn’t had a number 1 goalie since Kipper. You never know with goalies. Gillies seemed like a sure fire future NHL goalie at one point, Parsons was a fantastic prospect for a few years and now Wolf is among the best goalie prospects in the world. Could easily see none of them making it.

This summer there will be plenty of goalies available and I think it is time to stop the tandem and get a legit starter.

I have no doubt seismic changes are coming if the Flames can win the next 2 games but I am fairly certain Tkachuk is not going anywhere

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Andersson has passed Tkachuk and Lindholm as the person who would be the least likely to be traded.

I do not see a scenario where any of those 3 would be traded this offseason

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Yes, we know Gaudreau is from across the river In NJ and it would be a cute story to bring him in to play for the home town team. Match made in heaven, right? What could go wrong?

But why on earth would any GM with two brain cells to rub together trade a legitimate 1C who looks to be an annual Selke candidate near point per game player who plays in all situations, is younger and makes less for a one dimensional winger who seems to wilt when games matter most.

Not only that, why would a team that is just realizing their potential do something so drastic that it could completely undermine years of developing their roster? Couturier is undeniably part of their core and will play a pivotal role on their team as their 1C and they should be a cup contender for the foreseeable future. Trading Couturier for JG wouldn’t be a head scratching, it would be downright stupid.

Couturier is going to be 28 this winter, and his contract expires the same year as Gaudreau's (and Giroux's) and they've also got Giroux who can play C, Hayes signed long term and Patrick & Frost in the system.

A Couturier trade is not as far fetched as you are making it out to be IMO.

If Husky's rumor had happened they slide Giroux into Couturier's spot, slide Gaudreau into Giroux's spot and they've lost nothing, well... nothing except the Ghost contract which is going to severely inhibit their ability to extend Giroux and Couturier in two seasons.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

“Plan A” was Taylor Hall. We know Tree was in on it.

What was the alleged return for Jersey, someone said it was Noah Hanifin?

[Poe969]

What about offering Tkachuck to the Sens for 3 and 5? I think the Flames would have to add for sure but what about something like Tkachuck and our first for 3 and 5 OA? Is that a pipe dream? Would the sens consider it just to have the brothers together? What about Tkachuck for 3 OA?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Poe969

What about offering Tkachuck to the Sens for 3 and 5? I think the Flames would have to add for sure but what about something like Tkachuck and our first for 3 and 5 OA? Is that a pipe dream? Would the sens consider it just to have the brothers together? What about Tkachuck for 3 OA?

That's a complete tear down and IMO it's not going to happen.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by David Struch

What was the alleged return for Jersey, someone said it was Noah Hanifin?

Yeah there was rumor that Hanifin was the main piece offered for Hall. It makes even more sense with the Husky rumor that Gaudreau/Kylington for Coututier/Ghost because then Ghost takes Hanifin's spot in the top 4.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by David Struch

What was the alleged return for Jersey, someone said it was Noah Hanifin?

The rumor from Friedman was the Flames went with a hockey deal and no picks were involved but Hall needed to sign an extension to make the trade work. Hamifin’s name was mentioned and I think likely would have been Bennett or Mangipane that would have been included (my speculation)

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There are not many players I would trade Tkachuk for.

This team has 4 D under 24 and 2 that are already in the top 4 and Valimaki has the highest ceiling of all of them. Andersson has been great in these playoffs.

This team hasn’t had a number 1 goalie since Kipper. You never know with goalies. Gillies seemed like a sure fire future NHL goalie at one point, Parsons was a fantastic prospect for a few years and now Wolf is among the best goalie prospects in the world. Could easily see none of them making it.

This summer there will be plenty of goalies available and I think it is time to stop the tandem and get a legit starter.

I have no doubt seismic changes are coming if the Flames can win the next 2 games but I am fairly certain Tkachuk is not going anywhere

I doubt Tkachuk is going anywhere either, but in two years he's going to be making $10 million + and if the Flames C depth is still Monahan/Backlund/Bennett this team is FUBAR.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I doubt Tkachuk is going anywhere either, but in two years he's going to be making $10 million + and if the Flames C depth is still Monahan/Backlund/Bennett this team is FUBAR.

No way.

The more I watch Tkachuk and Gaudreau play, the more I think the flames would have no cap problems re-signing these guys.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

No way.

The more I watch Tkachuk and Gaudreau play, the more I think the flames would have no cap problems re-signing these guys.

No way what?

Tkachuk was nearly a point per game this season and his QO is $10 million when this contract ends in two more seasons. He's going to be the Flames highest paid player if he's still here.