American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[OMG!WTF!]

That would be huge news if I didn't question every single thing Trump is involved in.

[Senator Clay Davis]

He might very well try and cure cancer if it saves him in November.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by New Era

Seems the Harris pick was a winner.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/93103...d-running-mate

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN25901M

Any suggestion this will blunt the support of progressives is not supported by early polling.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/u...opularity.html

I'm sure you could find the data too that after Palin was announced McCain also got a big boost.

edit: Not hard to find:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...-bounce-f.html

Sen. John McCain has taken in $7 million in contributions since announcing Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, a top campaign aide said today.

The money bounce may owe to Palin's appeal with conservative donors, many of whom said privately they had planned on sitting out the campaign this year. The money comes in just under the wire -- after McCain accepts the GOP nomination Thursday, he will accept public funds and no longer be permitted to raise private money for the campaign.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

That would be huge news if I didn't question every single thing Trump is involved in.

It makes a lot of sense. If the Sunnis are that afraid of the Shia, then they will bite their tongue and use Israel as a useful idiot to counter possible Shia aggression. That won't lead to a lasting peace, but it will amount to a temporary alliance to hold Iran in check.

[DFO]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, stupid not to have Yang there, especially considering how popular he was with voters who could still ultimately choose Trump over Biden.

Yang added to the list

https://www.businessinsider.com/andr...rce=reddit.com

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm sure you could find the data too that after Palin was announced McCain also got a big boost.

How can you be so wrong about so much and still be so entrenched in your belief in being right?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Thor

I wonder how many are using the "She's so well spoken" racist tribe to describe Harris so far, that one is so often brought up with Black politicians, it was used a lot on Obama.

Being well spoken is a bad thing these days? I guess the West peaked in the 20th century and has begun it's decline.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by New Era

How can you be so wrong about so much and still be so entrenched in your belief in being right?

What the #### are you talking about?

You're proclaiming that this pick is a winner because they got a boost of donations the day of or after. I link an article showing that Palin also gave McCain a big boost the day after. It doesn't mean anything.

And let's back it up a little.. did I say the pick was a disaster? No.

My god. Grow up.

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Being well spoken is a bad thing these days? I guess the West peaked in the 20th century and has begun it's decline.

I also find this a weird take. Trump and Biden are being attacked for talking like they're on Ambien or are high on something else. Harris is a good speaker. That is a good thing. God the ultra left is ####ing weird to me.

[PsYcNeT]

Anything left of me = Ultra Left

Spicy.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

What the #### are you talking about?

You're proclaiming that this pick is a winner because they got a boost of donations the day of or after. I link an article showing that Palin also gave McCain a big boost the day after. It doesn't mean anything.

And let's back it up a little.. did I say the pick was a disaster? No.

My god. Grow up.



I also find this a weird take. Trump and Biden are being attacked for talking like they're on Ambien or are high on something else. Harris is a good speaker. That is a good thing. God the ultra left is ####ing weird to me.

My dude, take a time out.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Anything left of me = Ultra Left

Spicy.

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

My dude, take a time out.

Did someone put up the progressive bat signal?

Unless your Chris Rock making this joke in the 90s, complimenting a black politician for speaking well isn't racist. My dude.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53770859

I truly wonder what insane deals and quid-pro-quo went on behind closed doors before this was announced.

Something something Khashoggi?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Fine by me. That was way less stressful.

Agreed. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the 2008 financial crisis were definitely less stressful.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Did someone put up the progressive bat signal?

Unless your Chris Rock making this joke in the 90s, complimenting a black politician for speaking well isn't racist. My dude.

Why do you get so defensive anytime something that might have remotely racist connotations is brought up? And why is everything you disagree with in the social sphere "ultra left" and "progressive" some sort of 'shot' to you? Honestly asking.

For the record, I agree with you that I wouldn't immediately see any connection. And certainly not in this case, where the comparisons are two dudes who have the verbal communication skills of a high schooler.

That said, instead of dismissing the entire concept outright, you could just say "I don't think that applies here" and just welcome the idea that Black people sharing their experience say it certainly is part of it for them:

https://ideas.ted.com/why-we-need-to...casual-racism/
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/wa...black-men-face
https://www.aaihs.org/inarticulate-while-black/
https://thetab.com/uk/2020/07/08/psa...-spoken-165490

It's not hard to just be open and listen to experiences outside your own to gain context, even if you end up still disagreeing with the implication (and here, I do). Shutting them down as though they don't exist is ignorant.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why do you get so defensive anytime something that might have remotely racist connotations is brought up? And why is everything you disagree with in the social sphere "ultra left" and "progressive" some sort of 'shot' to you? Honestly asking.

For the record, I agree with you that I wouldn't immediately see any connection. And certainly not in this case, where the comparisons are two dudes who have the verbal communication skills of a high schooler.

That said, instead of dismissing the entire concept outright, you could just say "I don't think that applies here" and just welcome the idea that Black people sharing their experience say it certainly is part of it for them:

https://ideas.ted.com/why-we-need-to...casual-racism/

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/wa...black-men-face
https://www.aaihs.org/inarticulate-while-black/
https://thetab.com/uk/2020/07/08/psa...-spoken-165490

It's not hard to just be open and listen to experiences outside your own to gain context, even if you end up still disagreeing with the implication (and here, I do). Shutting them down as though they don't exist is ignorant.

That's fine, but, the person was responding to Thor, who literally wrote that its a racist trope. I find that asinine. If my reaction to that comes off as strong, that's my personality and I've had to live with it and the ramifications of it for 40 years. It is what it is.

[FlamesAddiction]

Yeah, I personally don't think it's racist to say that unless you are being sarcastic or are actually surprised because you didn't t expect her to be well spoken. She is a great communicator and acknowledging that shouldn't be controversial.

[Looch City]

I'm patiently waiting on what racist nickname Trump gives her.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

That's fine, but, the person was responding to Thor, who literally wrote that its a racist trope. I find that asinine. If my reaction to that comes off as strong, that's my personality and I've had to live with it and the ramifications of it for 40 years. It is what it is.

You find it asinine despite the fact that black people personally view it as a racist trope?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

That's fine, but, the person was responding to Thor, who literally wrote that its a racist trope. I find that asinine. If my reaction to that comes off as strong, that's my personality and I've had to live with it and the ramifications of it for 40 years. It is what it is.

My first reaction was kinda "oh come on" as well, because it sounded over the top and a non-issue, but then I googled it and learned something. Not so hard to do.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You find it asinine despite the fact that black people personally view it as a racist trope?

Thor isn't black.

edit: to add...

In a race where Trump and Biden are gaff machines and sound just terrible speaking, I find it incredibly unreasonable to say "Harris is a great speaker and communicator and will be an asset to the ticket" for example.

I understand and recognize that the "articulate" trope has been around for a while, hence my Chris Rock reference. But here in this race, sorry, her communication skills are on the table to brag about and it's not tokenism or a trope. We really need to try and do better and stop inventing hidden meaning behind peoples compliments to see racism. It doesn't apply here, full stop.