American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[PsYcNeT]

Pathetic pick.

"Oh our country is having a massive backlash against the police state and trust in law enforcement is at an all-time low? Well it's a super smart and very rational decision to have a weak candidate that is basically the embodiment of what's wrong with law enforcement as our VP pick! What could go wrong?"

[peter12]

Rice will make a great Sec of State.

[Bunk]

Meh, probably not gonna move things much one way or another. She’s competent, but had a lacklustre presidential campaign.

[Baron von Kriterium]

Sadly, Biden thought he was picking Franco Harris, who would've actually helped him in Pennsylvania.

[Looch City]

Well looks like Trump's team was just F5'ing all day

https://twitter.com/user/status/1293285949917495300



Also not left enough for Bernie-bros, too left for Trumpists.

Therefore, perfect?

[SportsJunky]

Harris was my hope for VP. Very strong woman of color. She’ll more than hold her own on the debate stage. The Bernie-left can get bent if they don’t like it.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

That ad actually slightly misses the mark... it's very close to being effective. But the argument that she's somehow part of the radical left isn't going to convince many people when she is so clearly a party establishment favourite... as will become clear when all of the far-left people react like this.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1293282932577177607

They should have just run with the "voters rejected her as a phony" angle.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by getbak

Ivana. His wife's name was Ivana.

Ivanka is his daughter. He'd have to be a real sick SOB to even think about that.

You are saying he is not a sick SOB?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by peter12

Rice will make a great Sec of State.

I assume Klobuchar and Warren have been offered plum positions too.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Reminder that short of Biden choosing to resign and elevate Bernie to nominee that the "Bernie left" was never gonna like the choice. Rice is an Obama crony, Harris is a cop, Warren is a traitor for not quitting when Bernie was in front, etc...This group has either already decided to fall in line for the greater good, or joined the Howiedoing crew. Never was gonna matter, although I would have picked Rice simply so the Trump campaign would spend all their time on Benghazi during a pandemic, like that wouldn't be a disastrous decision.

[flylock shox]

I'm happy with the Harris pick.

In some respects she's quite raw, but she has a charisma that other candidates lack. The Dems needed to think about who they'll run in 4 years, and if they can get the kinks worked out of Harris' game she'll be a strong presidential candidate.

Plus I want to see Maya Rudolph on the campaign trail for her.

[ernie]

Also keep in mind that no matter who was picked it doesn’t really change what the platform will be. Bernie and Warren supporters can be angry but in the end their desired picks have and are influencing that platform. They need to keep the eye on the true prize and that’s that influence.

Harris has her issues and Those issues I think hampers her impact, but she also made step by step practical improvements to policing and the legal system. Her sin is likely taking the small step than trying for the big leap. Make no mistake though, the police unions do hate her because of those things.

She’s not an ideologue but a realist. To her something is better than nothing. She tries to balance things to make those incremental improvements, That may not be the best person for this time.

That said, it’s a way better pick than Kaine.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Reminder that short of Biden choosing to resign and elevate Bernie to nominee that the "Bernie left" was never gonna like the choice.

If you watch the Hill video above, Ball explains why for people like her, Kamala is the worst choice of a bunch of bad options. I think had it been Rice or Bass, there would have been some grumbling, but not to anywhere near this degree. Actually, some Sanders delegates wrote to the Biden campaign in an open letter proposing their shortlist, and Bass was on it. So I think they could have been placated, or at least not antagonized.

But even there, I would have been fine with a pick that the Sanders crew would revolt against, as long as it provided some other advantages elsewhere - mostly in terms of regional advantage, like shoring up support in the midwest or creating further swing states for the RNC to defend. This doesn't do that. This does nothing. The best thing you can argue is that she'll perform well against Pence in a VP debate that no one will watch, and it won't matter because that being the only thing she has going for her will simply lower expectations for Pence to a point where the bar is low enough for him to easily clear.

[Minnie]

The best part of the Harris pick is watching the meltdowns.

[ernie]

This gets fixed with a good first speech from Harris....they should have some Obama speech writers they can use. Now she won’t deliver it as Obama could but that’s the level of the outrage...say the right things and everyone remembers why this doesn’t matter so much in the big picture.

And I’m sure the GOP will start alienating women as they go after her for being a slut or something.

[Acey]

I think this is a terrible pick, but it's not like it will lose Biden the election. I was hoping for anybody but her.

[BoLevi]

There is a decent chance that Biden won't even make it to the ticket. I don't think it's likely, but it's a non-trivial chance more than zero.

[oldschoolcalgary]

i think it was a safe choice tbh.

Harris is more center left that attempts to to address Trump's attempt to paint Biden as 'radical left'.

she's extremely smart and will do well, imo, in addressing GOP attacks.

Frankly, if the left abandons Biden like they did Clinton for not being 'left enough', well, that's on them

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a decent chance that Biden won't even make it to the ticket. I don't think it's likely, but it's a non-trivial chance more than zero.

Like, you think he might leave his mortal shell before the election?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

i think it was a safe choice tbh.

Harris is more center left that attempts to to address Trump's attempt to paint Biden as 'radical left'.

she's extremely smart and do well, imo, in addressing GOP attacks.

Frankly, if the left abandons Biden like their did Clinton for not being 'left enough', well, that's on them

I really like her when she talks. I have no knowledge or opinion of her when it comes to the criticisms regarding her as a prosecutor. It's hard to know how objective those criticisms are based on the people who make them. But even the lawyer that criticizes her in the Rogan interview, makes the caveat that a ticket with Harris is still better than anything with Trump.

I do recall some people unfairly criticizing her because some of her distant ancestors on her father's side owned slaves. Like that was her choice or something.