08-09-2020, 05:05 PM
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#781
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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The Flames have now qualified for as many playoffs at Rogers Place as the Oilers 
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08-09-2020, 05:13 PM
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#782
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Franchise Player
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Some of my friends who are Oiler fans reminded me and have been talking about Friedman speculation from last year when the Oilers hired Holland, that Mcdavid had given the Oilers two seasons (this year and next) to put pieces in place around him, otherwise he'd ask to be moved.
While it makes me smile thinking about the tears if this were to happen, it also bugs me when kids make these sort of threats to their team. I doubt it's true though and it was only speculation and an opinion on Friedman's part, with no sources behind it.
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08-09-2020, 05:16 PM
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#783
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Some of my friends who are Oiler fans reminded me and have been talking about Friedman speculation from last year when the Oilers hired Holland, that Mcdavid had given the Oilers two seasons (this year and next) to put pieces in place around him, otherwise he'd ask to be moved.
While it makes me smile thinking about the tears if this were to happen, it also bugs me when kids make these sort of threats to their team. I doubt it's true though and it was only speculation and an opinion on Friedman's part, with no sources behind it.
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I think theres a logical basis to that.
Many people speculated the exact same thing when they cleaned house and implemented Chiarelli and Mcllellan.
McDavid holds all the cards. He has his contract and if he demands a trade he'll get it. The Oilers will get hosed, but he'll get his trade.
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08-09-2020, 05:18 PM
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#784
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CedarMeter
I could only listen to that for 13 minutes. What a bunch of bozos those two are. So bitter.
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Through my endurance and self sacrifice, I offer you the summation and distillation of all things No Good Oilers. In the last 2 minutes:
"I'm going to go with that the Oilers made the playoffs AND got in the draft lottery. Because I feel like they made the playoffs."
"Hopefully, it's a win-win-win and they win the draft lottery."
"Yeah, NOW you're talking like an Oilers fan!"
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08-09-2020, 05:19 PM
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#785
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Looking at the Guy's facial reaction when he lost the draft lottery, and Edmonton popped up, how can you give the guy a "leadership" role, when he, clearly, was distressed at the reality that he was heading to the Oil? Honestly, it doesn't take a College educated person who had classes in Psychology (which I actually am) to see that he was going to have to get used to the idea that he was going to be an Oiler. And dumping the total team responsibility, including moving Hall to make room for his "leadership" was wrong, wrong-headed, and an additional burden on the kid's development. Now, it is all on Edmonton, that they have stunted any potential growth into "leadership" by projecting qualities that he may not actually have, or may not have been ready to assume, before he settled into life at the NHL level.
I am not denying the guy's physical talent or skills, just questioning whether he could have been helped by an apprenticeship in leading an NHL squad. If one argues, that "there were no veteran players to mentor the kid", that is just further indictment of the front office ineptitude of the Oil.
If you point to my team, and say, well, it worked for Toews, you ignore that the 'Hawks left guys like Seabrook, Keith, and Sharp, and added Hossa, to relieve some of that "leadership" burden. And, again, indicts the Oil brain (or brainless) trust in setting McStatpad up to fail in that area of team play.
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08-09-2020, 05:39 PM
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#786
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
If you point to my team, and say, well, it worked for Toews, you ignore that the 'Hawks left guys like Seabrook, Keith, and Sharp, and added Hossa, to relieve some of that "leadership" burden. And, again, indicts the Oil brain (or brainless) trust in setting McStatpad up to fail in that area of team play.
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Toews is a poor comparison. One of the most gifted leaders in sports vs. a guy that can skate really fast.
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08-09-2020, 05:43 PM
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#787
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CedarMeter
I could only listen to that for 13 minutes. What a bunch of bozos those two are. So bitter.
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I could only last the intro.
"By the faithful, for the faithful".
The fact that their reporters represent themselves as fans and not professional journalists says everything.
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08-09-2020, 05:48 PM
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#788
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Looking at the Guy's facial reaction when he lost the draft lottery, and Edmonton popped up, how can you give the guy a "leadership" role, when he, clearly, was distressed at the reality that he was heading to the Oil? Honestly, it doesn't take a College educated person who had classes in Psychology (which I actually am) to see that he was going to have to get used to the idea that he was going to be an Oiler. And dumping the total team responsibility, including moving Hall to make room for his "leadership" was wrong, wrong-headed, and an additional burden on the kid's development. Now, it is all on Edmonton, that they have stunted any potential growth into "leadership" by projecting qualities that he may not actually have, or may not have been ready to assume, before he settled into life at the NHL level.
I am not denying the guy's physical talent or skills, just questioning whether he could have been helped by an apprenticeship in leading an NHL squad. If one argues, that "there were no veteran players to mentor the kid", that is just further indictment of the front office ineptitude of the Oil.
If you point to my team, and say, well, it worked for Toews, you ignore that the 'Hawks left guys like Seabrook, Keith, and Sharp, and added Hossa, to relieve some of that "leadership" burden. And, again, indicts the Oil brain (or brainless) trust in setting McStatpad up to fail in that area of team play.
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And the fact that Chicago is not a ####hole like Edmonton is.
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08-09-2020, 05:52 PM
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#789
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Scoring Winger
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Dont know if its been posted yet. Rumours going around in Edmonton that 2 possibly 3 of the remax 50/50 winners are realtors themselves and affiliated with remax. Scandal brewing in Edmonton or fake news.
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08-09-2020, 05:55 PM
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#790
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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McDavid hasn't won anything (outside of Team Canada things) since he played minor hockey and had the benefit of playoff Sam Bennett to carry him.
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08-09-2020, 06:30 PM
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#791
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan
Toews is a poor comparison. One of the most gifted leaders in sports vs. a guy that can skate really fast.
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Doesn't diminish my point. The 'Hawk front office left Toews some veterans to ease his leadership burden.
Famously, Seabrook, settling an out of sorts Toews down, in a playoff series vs. Detroit, where some truly poor refereeing took away a goal, late in an elimination game, where the 'Hawks were on the ropes. I can't imagine any of the Oilers stepping up and telling McGlorious to "chill, we've got this", the way Seabrook did. (And Seabrook ended up with the OT winner!)
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08-09-2020, 06:32 PM
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#792
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Franchise Player
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Exactly - even the very best leaders need leaders of their own to pave the way for them.
McDavid had no such mentorship or support
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08-09-2020, 06:56 PM
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#793
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Exactly - even the very best leaders need leaders of their own to pave the way for them.
McDavid had no such mentorship or support
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Agreed. Oilers continue to Oiler.
It is easy with the benefit of hindsight, but they could have just tried to develop McD into an NHLer, and a leader over time. Not right out of the gates, tho king because they won the lottery, they are automatically going to win multiple cups.
I guess they were so desperate for success at the time that they just overhyped, overplayed, and pushed him to the forefront.
Ahhh Edmonton, don’t ever change.
Just when I though you hit the bottom, you show me an new Lowe.
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08-09-2020, 07:07 PM
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#794
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Exactly - even the very best leaders need leaders of their own to pave the way for them.
McDavid had no such mentorship or support
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What are you talking about? Some bold moves were made last off-season to bring in veteran leadership:
 
Who could have guessed this wouldn’t work!?!
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08-09-2020, 07:15 PM
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#795
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Uncle Chester
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Check out them pupils.
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08-09-2020, 07:15 PM
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#796
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
What are you talking about? Some bold moves were made last off-season to bring in veteran leadership:
Who could have guessed this wouldn’t work!?! |
Those guys look familiar.
Harry and Lloyd?
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08-09-2020, 07:21 PM
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#797
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
What are you talking about? Some bold moves were made last off-season to bring in veteran leadership:
Who could have guessed this wouldn’t work!?! |
Two guys who thought their ability to shoot the puck hard made them superstars.
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08-09-2020, 07:25 PM
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#798
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CgyFlamesftw
Dont know if its been posted yet. Rumours going around in Edmonton that 2 possibly 3 of the remax 50/50 winners are realtors themselves and affiliated with remax. Scandal brewing in Edmonton or fake news.
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Well, the two names listed Danielle McGale and Steven Anderson both match up for names of real estate agents in Sherwood Park. Hmmm... fishy.
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08-09-2020, 07:26 PM
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#799
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Franchise Player
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How can there be multiple winners? Aren't the ticket numbers unique?
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08-09-2020, 07:29 PM
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#800
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
How can there be multiple winners? Aren't the ticket numbers unique?
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https://www.nhl.com/oilers/community...inning-numbers
4 games, 4 different 50/50s and winners.
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