[PGT] Jets 3 Flames 2

[DomeFoam]

How do you people like Monahan? Like honestly, what does he do for you?

[868904]

What's with the blaming of the officiating?

There were bad calls on both sides and you can't say the Flames didn't deserve the retaliatory ones. In the playoffs, you swallow your ego and your pride, you initiate and don't retaliate.

Have some composure and discipline.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by bax

Flames had 2 powerplays in a tie game. Execute on one of those and you walk away with a victory while playing a sloppy game.

Winnipeg played a perfect game and barely beat us. This didn’t look anything like the Colorado series

Maybe. Although I didn't think the Flames were barely beat. This game could have very easily been 6-2 or 7-2. I thought the Flames held on for dear life and Talbot barely kept them in it.

[AC]

Too bad about that Lucic chance on the PP. His first whack at the rebound hits Hellebuyck's toe and his 2nd gets saved by the paddle.

Would have been a 3-2 lead there.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by 868904

What's with the blaming of the officiating?

There were bad calls on both sides and you can't say the Flames didn't deserve the retaliatory ones. In the playoffs, you swallow your ego and your pride, you initiate and don't retaliate.

Have some composure and discipline.

Officiating was still bad. The Flames deserved to lose regardless.

[Sainters7]

That wasn't even fun. Sloppy, sloppy hockey, and the never-ending parade of penalties ensured there was zero momentum to that game. Ugh... stupid August hockey

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The bad: Gio, Brodie, Dube, Tkachuk, Gustafsson, Rinaldo, Bennett

The good: Talbot, the PK on the 2 man down

The invisible: Everyone else

Bennett has been one of our best players this series. The penalty calls against him so far have been ref BS calls.

If the top players played with the effort and care that Bennett does when playoffs comes around, we would be having a much different discussion about the potential of this team.

[Bonded]

Can't blame the officials when the Flames had 6 power plays

[Icon]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

Unless either Johnny or Sean completely kick it up a gear and go ham then I think their fate is sealed imo. One of them needs to be traded.
They're both valuable players so it's not like it will be for nothing but they're just too soft and situational.
In playoffs where there is little time and space and a need for physicality they have nothing to give.
When Sean isn't wide open to get shots off, he has nothing. He doesn't move around enough to get open, he relies on the defense to lose him.

I feel like I've barely even noticed Monahan in either game so far. Not a great quality for your 1C.

Johnny I've noticed, not getting the feet moving early enough and losing the puck

[kyuss275]

Johnny was not very good, but Mony has been a complete no show for both games

[GranteedEV]

I didn't like the officiating or the play of most of the Flames outside of Lindholm, Bennett, Talbot, Rieder, Ryan, and Andersson. Even Dube and Mangiapane had poor games.

What really grinds my gears though is why Rinaldo is out there. Just a total liability.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Flames get outworked and outplayed and lose in a playoff game??

I'm SHOCKED.

Seriously, the exception is when they play hard and well. This is their set standard for playoffs - we have seen it enough times for this core.

[Itse]

Not surprised. I didn't think the Flames were that good in the last game, it was just the Jets that were terrible.

Now they have a terrible roster, but they played well, and that's enough to beat the Flames, who look exactly like a team coached by an assistant coach just filling in. There's not much of a plan, there's no adjustments made when things aren't working, the team always runs too high or too low emotionally, and they don't enter games looking prepared.

Paul Maurice is a slightly above average coach, but at least he's got a lot of experience in the playoffs.

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

How do you people like Monahan? Like honestly, what does he do for you?

Wins faceoffs, and has a nice stick close in. But as a big, strong, mean, top-line center? Nah, he's not close.

[bax]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Maybe. Although I didn't think the Flames were barely beat. This game could have very easily been 6-2 or 7-2. I thought the Flames held on for dear life and Talbot barely kept them in it.

I guess we are just seeing it differently. In my opinion Flames were clearly the second best team on the ice, but even then Winnipeg wasn’t dominating, no way that was a 7-2 game.

Flames clean up their special teams and their transition play and they will be fine against a depleted Jets team.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by New Era

I've seen this story line someplace before? Seems like the Flames stick to the same script regardless of coaching or talent on the team.

Get Gaudreau the puck in the last 5! Nobody will see that coming!

One stupid Ill timed slap shot later, game over.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Joborule

A big weakness for the Flames is the inability of the top line players to produce 5-on-5. That's going to be their undoing if they don't fix that even with a depleted Jets lineup. Can't say I'm expecting that to be the case.

Be nice for Gaudreau, Monahan, and Tkachuk to do something the next few games without having to be on the PP, but not holding my breath.

This. Our team hasn’t generated 5 on 5 offense in the playoffs for a very long time.

[868904]

For those of you who question the need for going after Taylor Hall, just watch the past few playoffs for the Flames.

The playoffs get faster. The Flames are getting burned AGAIN by the other teams' top players who can fly. Mackinnon, Connor and even Ehlers.

You need your top players to be able to skate to stretch the opposition defense and to pressure them.

Tkachuk and Monahan are slow. Gaudreau while shifty is also weak so his speed gets nullified. Lindholm and Backlund are decent, but there is no one in the top 6 who "pushes" the pace.

When you best "skater" is Bennett, you are in big trouble.

Was hoping Dube had taken that next step after all the hyperbole during training camp, but looks like he still has a ways to go.

I'm more convinced than ever that the Flames HAVE to sign Taylor Hall.

[bigrangy]

Not nearly physical enough either today, don’t think anyone got a decent hit in

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by New Era

I've seen this story line someplace before? Seems like the Flames stick to the same script regardless of coaching or talent on the team.

Same talent, and no new voices on the bench this year when we're looking at last season.

Games like this are just hammering home the fact that the core of this team can't play meaningful games. They can't ramp up the emotion and execution. They just fade. I'm super disappointed in Giordano and Tkachuk. Those are two guys who should be better at this time of the year, and they aren't.