just by playing in edmontons building, the Jets have turned into them. i do enjoy watching the old games from the 80's. way more contact and no having to fight a guy after a clean hit. Anytime someone gets hurt, there has to be a culprit and outrage. This is tough to watch.
For Lowry to come out after all this has been looked at by league player safety etc, and claiming it was on purpose....is ridiculous.
What a clown show Maurice started.
It was Eakin on the penalty call.
Maurice definitely lit the fuse but the media is dying for storylines like this, and would’ve pushed and stirred someone up enough into making enough of a comment from someone on the Jets last night, and ran with it. As I mentioned, the saving grace from making it even bigger is that the bubble prevents a crowd of media shoving their mics in front of players.
I am sure it took Francis all night to beg Dave Lowry to get his son’s number to be able to text or call him to get a reaction.
For Lowry to come out after all this has been looked at by league player safety etc, and claiming it was on purpose....is ridiculous.
What a clown show Maurice started.
If Maurice's sole intent is to deflect attention from their poor game and "rally his troops" around adversity and turn it into a physical series, be interesting to see how it transpires.
The Jets/Flames "rivalry" was due to a refresh anyways.
I think my issue with Maurice's comments outside of them being completely false is that it has forced the team to defend them even when they, rightfully know they are not true. If they felt that way you don't send Blake Wheeler out there to fight the guy that intentionally injured your star. You send Lowry or at least somebody that knows how to throw a punch.
And now you have caused a massive distraction and possibly division amongst your players. You are no longer playing for Schiefele your injured star but for "revenge" against an agitating borderline reckless star injuring player. It is easier to convince a team to battle for an injured teammate than it is to battle against a player that many probably feel did nothing wrong.
I think my issue with Maurice's comments outside of them being completely false is that it has forced the team to defend them even when they, rightfully know they are not true. If they felt that way you don't send Blake Wheeler out there to fight the guy that intentionally injured your star. You send Lowry or at least somebody that knows how to throw a punch.
And now you have caused a massive distraction and possibly division amongst your players. You are no longer playing for Schiefele your injured star but for "revenge" against an agitating borderline reckless star injuring player. It is easier to convince a team to battle for an injured teammate than it is to battle against a player that many probably feel did nothing wrong.
It plays right into our hands really, Tkachuk is probably the best in the league at handling a team who is gunning for his head, he generally always uses it to our advantage. He played like a leader after the incident last night, took the fight, didn’t shy away from anything the rest of the game. I loved what I saw from #19
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Hockey media is really embarrassing itself this season. Has anybody even asked the question of whether this injury might be a product of an accelerated training camp to playoff intensity?
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Only 3:10 of ice time. The Flames were basically running three lines all game with Ryan and Reiner getting PK time.
Which is pretty much ideal. Considering how many penalties are being called so far, it might actually make sense to swap in Janko. Rinaldo isn't always that disciplined (understandably considering the game he plays), and having the 4th line full of PK specialists would help maximize deployment of the other 3 lines.
I talked to two friends who are Jets fans and both played very high level hockey... both agreed it was just bad luck and that Tkatchuk did nothing wrong. This is just the media drumming up bad blood and a head coach who has his head up his arse, and trying to fire up his team by creating an evil villain on the opposite team.
Theres no deep dive here. Maurice is using the old coaches playbook. Key player gets hurt? Set a media frenzy. Try to create a distraction. Thing is, Chuckles don't care. Hes going to go out on the ice and just keep playing.
This is where Ward will truly shine. Keep an even keel and let the play on the ice dictate the outcome. Once you get into the head games when you're leading a series, you're playing into their hands.
Sucks Scheifle is hurt. But uhhh, its hockey, players get hurt.
And from what I can tell, Flames don't really have a need to get into a war of words right now.
Game 2 will be interesting. Jets are very likely to get extra chippy. But I think the Flames can handle it.
You know what I thought was the weirdest thing though?
Gio bumped into Laine and Gio bounced off him and fell, and then Laine said sorry? Like what? Then Gio, kind of stunned gives Laine the old shift to the kidneys and they tussle a bit in front of the net. And Laines wrist was hurt before the Gio bounce.
Sucks for the Jets. But I also thought that was what was gonna happen to Calgary heading into this. That typical luck they have.
“If Toby Rieder had scored 12-14 goals, we’d have probably made the playoffs.”
March 21, 2019, Bob Nicholson
So great that his happens on this (so called) Team President's rink. And to further the quote, Tobias doesn't need to score more then a few goals, not "12 or 14" for his team to make the playoffs.
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If we really want to break down the mechanics of the injury, the problem was the speed Schiefle was carrying when he tried to spin away from the hit. And that he tried to turn away from the hit, when taking it would’ve been one of the common 30 hits along the boards that happen all game with players legs all near the board.
If you notice his front skate (right skate) somewhat lost an edge as he tried the hard cut, and with momentum he had in meant it put him that much closer to the boards and that right skate hit the boards sideways, however, that initial skip on the right skate meant the trailing left skate couldn’t come around and clear the boards as planned, and therefore instead of the side of the left skate rubbing against the boards like the right one did, the left skate has got the toe stuck flush squarely to boards....and then both the knee and ankle (which is offset at an angle when he’s hurt on the ice) take the full twisting torque.
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Hockey media is really embarrassing itself this season. Has anybody even asked the question of whether this injury might be a product of an accelerated training camp to playoff intensity?
Which is pretty much ideal. Considering how many penalties are being called so far, it might actually make sense to swap in Janko. Rinaldo isn't always that disciplined (understandably considering the game he plays), and having the 4th line full of PK specialists would help maximize deployment of the other 3 lines.
absolutely zero need to bring Janko into this. The way Ward has it all set up is perfect. Ryan gets his minutes still and Bennett get to do his thing with Dube 5v5. And Bennett can PK if need be as well.
So can Dube. Honestly, Jankos role has evaporated so fast its not even worth contesting.
Only way he gets into a game now is injury. He has brought nothing to the table to warrant a swap in even if the team was struggling.
If we really want to break down the mechanics of the injury, the problem was the speed Schiefle was carrying when he tried to spin away from the hit. And that he tried to turn away from the hit, when taking it would’ve been one of the common 30 hits along the boards that happen all game with players legs all near the board.
If you notice his front skate (right skate) somewhat lost an edge as he tried the hard cut, and with momentum he had in meant it put him that much closer to the boards and that right skate hit the boards sideways, however, that initial skip on the right skate meant the trailing left skate couldn’t come around and clear the boards as planned, and therefore instead of the side of the left skate rubbing against the boards like the right one did, the left skate has got the toe stuck flush squarely to boards....and then both the knee and ankle (which is offset at an angle when he’s hurt on the ice) take the full twisting torque.
This is what I was trying to get at. He basically got his foot stuck.
All the Jets players been told to tow the party line and ignore the actual replays.
Now they’re all going to focus on trying beat up Tkachuk, and consequently lose the series in the process. Nice leadership, Paul.
Have the Flames said anything about this yet? I certainly wouldn’t accept a play being called dirty and intentional when it wasn’t actually dirty and and intentional. It’s basically an untrue accusation.
I’m not sure I agree with wanting to hurt someone every time you hit them. I would guess most players feel the same way. You want to wear them down as the game goes along. Make them know to be aware. But nobody truly wishes to hurt someone. At least by my perspective.
There is a difference between injure and hurt.
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This the same Lowry who nailed Kylington into the glass at the end of the second period at the Heritage Classic?!?
I like the view from 1:07 - linesman 79 knows instantly that it's a dirty hit and #### show is about to ensure.
For me, that is the absolute worst kind of hit - charging into an established board battle. No excuse...unlike open ice hits where both players are moving fast and a subtle unpredictable movement or size disparity can make all of the difference between dirty/clean.
Theres no deep dive here. Maurice is using the old coaches playbook. Key player gets hurt? Set a media frenzy. Try to create a distraction. Thing is, Chuckles don't care. Hes going to go out on the ice and just keep playing.
This is where Ward will truly shine. Keep an even keel and let the play on the ice dictate the outcome. Once you get into the head games when you're leading a series, you're playing into their hands.
Sucks Scheifle is hurt. But uhhh, its hockey, players get hurt.
And from what I can tell, Flames don't really have a need to get into a war of words right now.
Game 2 will be interesting. Jets are very likely to get extra chippy. But I think the Flames can handle it.
You know what I thought was the weirdest thing though?
Gio bumped into Laine and Gio bounced off him and fell, and then Laine said sorry? Like what? Then Gio, kind of stunned gives Laine the old shift to the kidneys and they tussle a bit in front of the net. And Laines wrist was hurt before the Gio bounce.
Sucks for the Jets. But I also thought that was what was gonna happen to Calgary heading into this. That typical luck they have.
Laine hits Gio with an elbow to the jaw on that play. It's why he appears to apologize and why Giordano is pissed and has none of it. Laine also jams his left hand into the boards on that play and that is presumably where he hurts.
