American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[troutman]

Not so fast - while all 9 Justices agree a President is not immune from a criminal subpoena, they all also agree that this has to go back to a trial Court where Trump can raise additional objections.

ie. nothing will be revealed before November, and later it will only be a Grand Jury that sees the tax returns unless it becomes evidence in a trial.

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1281206354334625793


I'm not sure he understands fractions...

[photon]

7 - 2, it wasn't even close. Alito and Thomas, not even Trump's recent appointees being loyal lol.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1281233303887138818

[nfotiu]

I can't imagine what is in Trump's tax returns that would really affect his re-election. I think he is just worried about personal embarrassment.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I can't imagine what is in Trump's tax returns that would really affect his re-election. I think he is just worried about personal embarrassment.

If he owes a boatload of $ to Russians that could be damaging.

[Thor]

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Thor

One of my conservative friends on FB was "calling out" us liberals for shaming and mocking these people who don't wear masks, suggesting we have two options, one to mock and one to respectfully try to convince them of their folly.

As I said to him and the few others that agreed with that, it is like dealing with anti-vaxxers when it comes to these people, probably more so akin to the climate change debate being more about what political beliefs you have rather than listening to science.

I mean go for it, attempt to reason with people who refuse to wear masks, spend your time and energy politely and reasonably trying to reach them, but in my long experience in the skeptic community online, you rarely are able to convince people to change their minds when it comes to something that in the US has become a badge of defience and "freedom" when it comes to those who refuse to wear masks in public.

Try debating with them nude...tell them no way society and the government should tell you what to wear!!!

Maybe their folly will sink in then

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by troutman

If he owes a boatload of $ to Russians that could be damaging.

After seeing how bountygate is already secondpage news I’m not sure.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1281206354334625793


I'm not sure he understands fractions...

And if he says it 99 more times, he'll have said it once.

[PsYcNeT]

It's amazing that that tweet is mathematically incorrect 3 times in 240 characters.

[ernie]

CDC goes against Trump and Pence and will NOT change the guidelines for schools. Yesterday Pence had said they’d change because they were too onerous and expensive (and trump threatened to withhold funding from schools that didn’t open making it even harder to meet the expenses).

The CDC will provide additional helping documents to the schools so they have a better understanding on how they can meet the guidance but the guidance is not changing.

Our school this morning h sent an email that they have adjusted class size so that every student will have 36sqft of space and will provide face coverings etc...

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

It's amazing that that tweet is mathematically incorrect 3 times in 240 characters.

Maybe he thought he wouldn't get CAIGHT making that mistake.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I would hope every poster here with their intentional or unintentional "holier-than-thou" opinions of the average American and the glee people are taking in what is happening down south, remember Witty, and remember that the average American is not a red neck bumbling clown. The average American is as smart, thoughtful and caring as any Canadian. And we should be supportive of them, and not taking pleasure in their disaster.

Which often seems to be the case.

We deserve all the flak we get. Witty, and some of the other American postesters, are the exception. She shines the light on just how bad it is down here. I hope people feel the same way about me. (but trying to be humble and not lump myself in)

Living in red America has been the most eye opening thing ever. I often daydream of moving to the northeast or somewhere that there are at least less yokels. But then I realize that I can't just hide from it. I need to see it and be reminded that its real.

[ernie]

This is a strong reason why Arizona has a huge chance of going blue.

ICU beds at about 95% full and climbing. Ventilators really starting to take off.



Edit: on mobile..not sure the picture posted. Will correct later if it didn’t.

[MoneyGuy]

Tell me if I’m wrong but I thought releasing his tax returns doesn’t mean public release.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by ernie

This is a strong reason why Arizona has a huge chance of going blue.

ICU beds at about 95% full and climbing. Ventilators really starting to take off.



Edit: on mobile..not sure the picture posted. Will correct later if it didn’t.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...states/florida

The positive test rates are 25-30% in Arizona and Florida right now.

Trump can go on about more cases=more testing, but the only reason the percent positive is not going crazy is because NY, NJ, etc are counting over 100k/day of negative tests.

[direwolf]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1280868512207167490

https://twitter.com/user/status/1280873379428552704

[bdubbs]

Get out of here with your facts and logic.

[PeteMoss]

Have to admit - very curious about these tax returns given the meltdown Trump is having after this decision.