Very difficult to actually get on the ballot in many states, impossible in some at this stage. I suspect a ‘ploy’ to try to redirect votes away from Biden
Yes. In the interview I posted before, the Green Candidate talks about this, how he is now only on the ballot in 27 states so far but will work to get on all 50. He had to sue Illinois who tried to keep him off.
With regards to the Kanye thing, it's publicity. He's too late to be on the ballot in Texas, New York, and Illinois. He has 10 days to get tens of thousands of signatures in Florida and Michigan. It's not possible for him to actually run a real campaign.
STOP FALLING FOR THE NONSENSE! Kanye is an idiot
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With regards to the Kanye thing, it's publicity. He's too late to be on the ballot in Texas, New York, and Illinois. He has 10 days to get tens of thousands of signatures in Florida and Michigan. It's not possible for him to actually run a real campaign.
STOP CALLING FOR THE NONSENSE! Kanye is an idiot
Yup. And for the people who are worried that he would somehow siphon votes away from Biden, I highly doubt that any Democrat, progressive, or even centrist voter is suddenly gonna vote for a MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporter who believes that slavery was a choice, particularly in this current climate of political unrest and racial injustice.
Kanye is an clown, just like his buddy the orange menace.
The death rate is very low relative to the number of cases, I wonder what’s going on:
- virus is losing it virility
- younger patients
- catching more asymptotic people
- better treatments
- cooking the books
- ....
If the hospitals start overflowing the number will ramp up but it’s currently very low compared to the recent sustained positive test rate.
It's many things
1) Newer therapies will increase survival rates
2) younger patients on average, though the average age in the Florida cases is older than the New York one, so I don't think that's it
3) Lag time. This is the big one. The average length of stay in hospital is close to 14 days, with time to death being 14 days from being admitted and 5-7 days from catching it to being admitted. Because of this deaths will lag positive tests by 2 to 3 weeks depending on when the positive tests were administered and received.
We don't know yet what the death rates will be from current infections as there hasn't been enough time elapsed. It will almost assuredly be lower than New York for the following reasons:
1) Testing was constrained to severely ill in New York due to lack of test availability, so a lot of the positive tests were for those already 1, 2, 3 weeks into illness and admitted to hospital. It's also estimated that 20% of New York was infected, so the lag been tests and deaths was shorter. There were many times more infected and for much longer than testing would suggest.
2) We have better therapies. Remdesivir and dexamethasone will save lives that weren't saved in New York.
3) Hospital capacity had been able to ramp up, so a higher percentage of people will be able to access care than in New York. New York had a lot of people die at home without care
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I feel like leaning on joblessness is pretty lazy. Given the whole global pandemic. But maybe it needs to be said to some Americans??
However the scope and scale of the outbreak there is entirely based on the US response. Their combination of poor leadership, weak institutions, individualism, and political divide has led to the virus being worse for them than every other developed nation. So while yes the virus will have permanent long term negative affects on employment we will see the Affects in the US be longer and worse. So it is a reasonable place to attack. The extension of the first wave of the virus is entirely self inflicted. There is an outside chance that they get the infection rate high enough that they reach heard immunity faster than a vaccine is available and they recover to full strength faster than the rest of the world.
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I feel like leaning on joblessness is pretty lazy. Given the whole global pandemic. But maybe it needs to be said to some Americans??
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However the scope and scale of the outbreak there is entirely based on the US response. Their combination of poor leadership, weak institutions, individualism, and political divide has led to the virus being worse for them than every other developed nation. So while yes the virus will have permanent long term negative affects on employment we will see the Affects in the US be longer and worse. So it is a reasonable place to attack. The extension of the first wave of the virus is entirely self inflicted. There is an outside chance that they get the infection rate high enough that they reach heard immunity faster than a vaccine is available and they recover to full strength faster than the rest of the world.
I think you're both right.
This particular ad doesn't resonate for me, because the obvious counterargument "but coronavirus" isn't addressed. The ad really would have been better if it pointed out that Trump's failure to properly handle the Covid-19 outbreak has led to an ongoing crisis of unemployment and death. That would be fairer and more persuasive.
But I'm guessing that (a) they wanted to squeeze this into 60 seconds, and (b) they prefer to keep their message simple, since a lot of the people they're targeting with it aren't interested in depth or nuance.
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This particular ad doesn't resonate for me, because the obvious counterargument "but coronavirus" isn't addressed. The ad really would have been better if it pointed out that Trump's failure to properly handle the Covid-19 outbreak has led to an ongoing crisis of unemployment and death. That would be fairer and more persuasive.
But I'm guessing that (a) they wanted to squeeze this into 60 seconds, and (b) they prefer to keep their message simple, since a lot of the people they're targeting with it aren't interested in depth or nuance.
It's classic GOP marketing. Take a salient point without context and hammer it
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However the scope and scale of the outbreak there is entirely based on the US response. Their combination of poor leadership, weak institutions, individualism, and political divide has led to the virus being worse for them than every other developed nation. So while yes the virus will have permanent long term negative affects on employment we will see the Affects in the US be longer and worse. So it is a reasonable place to attack. The extension of the first wave of the virus is entirely self inflicted. There is an outside chance that they get the infection rate high enough that they reach heard immunity faster than a vaccine is available and they recover to full strength faster than the rest of the world.
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I think you're both right.
This particular ad doesn't resonate for me, because the obvious counterargument "but coronavirus" isn't addressed. The ad really would have been better if it pointed out that Trump's failure to properly handle the Covid-19 outbreak has led to an ongoing crisis of unemployment and death. That would be fairer and more persuasive.
But I'm guessing that (a) they wanted to squeeze this into 60 seconds, and (b) they prefer to keep their message simple, since a lot of the people they're targeting with it aren't interested in depth or nuance.
The prolonged first wave is inflicted by who?
They can hammer on Trump, and maybe I'm missing something here, but I think the Democrats were even slower in their response. Back in February. Biden called the ban on Chinese flights (on Jan 31) racist and Pelosi was visiting Chinatown business as late as Feb 28. Di Blasio was still telling people to eat out in March.
Weak institutions is the key to this problem, not a particular government in power. I'll give you a simple example. In Alberta, the AHS is the only single-bodied provincial health services. So they have one message which is direct and can mobilize. In Ontario in Quebec, they have separate regional bodies and trying to message and mobilize those has been a challenge. Most US states also have this problem.
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While I presume this is not what you are referring to, I would argue that by definition The United States is the greatest nation in history. Global reach and power; economically, militarily and culturally, the kind of which has never been seen before.
Their future sure doesn't look good, though.
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While I presume this is not what you are referring to, I would argue that by definition The United States is the greatest nation in history. Global reach and power; economically, militarily and culturally, the kind of which has never been seen before.
Their future sure doesn't look good, though.
I mean if you pretend Rome/Byzantines, Mongols and even Britian never existed I guess.
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Yup. And for the people who are worried that he would somehow siphon votes away from Biden, I highly doubt that any Democrat, progressive, or even centrist voter is suddenly gonna vote for a MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporter who believes that slavery was a choice, particularly in this current climate of political unrest and racial injustice.
Kanye is an clown, just like his buddy the orange menace.
