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Old 06-14-2020, 02:49 AM   #2821
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Aside from the fact he failed a breathalyzer and thus was being arrested for impaired driving. I thought we wanted drunk drivers off the street. Now it's only if they're cooperative?

Also, 3 charges in a taser? That's a complete fabrication.

Honestly, please stop the misinformation.



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Ignoring that you are suggesting it is ok to execute drunk drivers.

The drunk driver was off the street.

They had his car, his ID and other resources they could call upon.

Finally, you’ve made the claim that three charges is a fabrication. Do you want to back that up?
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Contribute nothing and escalate everything.
Isn't that the official slogan of police now?
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Isn't that the official slogan of police now?
That is a ridiculous statement. There is ample evidence that increased numbers of officers lowers the incidents of crime. Starting from a position that they contribute nothing is not helpful even in jest.
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This was no kid, he was a 27 year old man. Why try to make this out to be even worse then it already is?
I know it's coming from a place of well-intention often times to portray victims of situation like this in an even more tragic light, but I can't help find there's an unfortunate racial bias in this regard.

I don't mean to call anyone specific out as it's something I caught myself doing as well but I don't think you'll find many people refer to 22+ white males as kids, outside of their parents, but it doesn't seem uncommon for people to frame Black and Indigenous males 22+ year olds as kids.

Maybe I just have a confirmation bias because I know that rich-white-college-student-criminals will often have their attorneys try to frame them as kids, but I don't recall too often a past-standard-college-aged white person was regarded as a kid.

Obviously this does not apply to white male Sam Bennett who will forever be a developing kid on this board regardless of age.
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The Atlanta cop, Garrett Rolfe, has been fired.

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Hearing about this case reminds me of when I scold my children for hitting each other. I sit the 5 year old down and explain to him why we don't hit each other and why it's a bad thing to do. He says he understands and we hug it out, and they go back to playing.

Then 5 minutes later when there's more screaming and I catch him hitting again, I often say, "Didn't we just finish talking about this?! What did I say?!"

That's America's police departments at the moment. Literally a 5 year old that can't change their habits despite saying "I understand".




But also, black people...we've talked about this from your end too. Don't give them a reason to shoot you either. It doesn't excuse their behavior in any way, but you know what's likely to happen when you resist arrest and attempt to fire something at an officer. It's like getting mad at an alligator for biting your hand when you stick it in their mouth.
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:24 AM   #2828
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But also, black people...we've talked about this from your end too. Don't give them a reason to shoot you either. It doesn't excuse their behavior in any way, but you know what's likely to happen when you resist arrest and attempt to fire something at an officer. It's like getting mad at an alligator for biting your hand when you stick it in their mouth.
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Gem of a thread. Just outstanding.
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Yeah, black people. Stop acting like white, five year olds. Both situations are exactly the same. Both parties have been treated identically for hundreds of years. Both should behave better. /thread
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But also, black people...we've talked about this from your end too. Don't give them a reason to shoot you either. It doesn't excuse their behavior in any way, but you know what's likely to happen when you resist arrest and attempt to fire something at an officer. It's like getting mad at an alligator for biting your hand when you stick it in their mouth.
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This is a really good video covering the nature of the history of complaints against Chauvin. Seems like a fair portrayal...


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Hearing about this case reminds me of when I scold my children for hitting each other. I sit the 5 year old down and explain to him why we don't hit each other and why it's a bad thing to do. He says he understands and we hug it out, and they go back to playing.

Then 5 minutes later when there's more screaming and I catch him hitting again, I often say, "Didn't we just finish talking about this?! What did I say?!"

That's America's police departments at the moment. Literally a 5 year old that can't change their habits despite saying "I understand".




But also, black people...we've talked about this from your end too. Don't give them a reason to shoot you either. It doesn't excuse their behavior in any way, but you know what's likely to happen when you resist arrest and attempt to fire something at an officer. It's like getting mad at an alligator for biting your hand when you stick it in their mouth.
George Floyd didn't resist arrest and they killed him as well, the truth is it doesn't matter what black men in the US do, the cops will still kill them, cop tells you produce your license then shoots you for reaching into your jacket to get your license, it would appear that there is nothing a black man in the states can do to avoid the risk of getting shot by the police.
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George Floyd didn't resist arrest and they killed him as well, the truth is it doesn't matter what black men in the US do, the cops will still kill them, cop tells you produce your license then shoots you for reaching into your jacket to get your license, it would appear that there is nothing a black man in the states can do to avoid the risk of getting shot by the police.
Haven't you heard? The cops shot Breonna Taylor to death because she resisted arrest by *checks notes* sleeping at home in her bed.
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I know it's coming from a place of well-intention often times to portray victims of situation like this in an even more tragic light, but I can't help find there's an unfortunate racial bias in this regard.

I don't mean to call anyone specific out as it's something I caught myself doing as well but I don't think you'll find many people refer to 22+ white males as kids, outside of their parents, but it doesn't seem uncommon for people to frame Black and Indigenous males 22+ year olds as kids.

Maybe I just have a confirmation bias because I know that rich-white-college-student-criminals will often have their attorneys try to frame them as kids, but I don't recall too often a past-standard-college-aged white person was regarded as a kid.

Obviously this does not apply to white male Sam Bennett who will forever be a developing kid on this board regardless of age.
Its more age bias, what I classify as a kid gets older as I do, right now anyone under 30 to me is a kid, probably not coincidently that is my own childs age.
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Hold the police to the same standard that soldiers are held to an a counter-insurgency situation - don't fire until you have been fired upon. That seems pretty easy to implement like immediately.
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Hold the police to the same standard that soldiers are held to an a counter-insurgency situation - don't fire until you have been fired upon. That seems pretty easy to implement like immediately.
I mean, there are still lobby groups (and possibly Trump himself) looking to pardon Robert Bales...

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So, in your opinion, the two arresting officers have no responsibility in letting it escalate too the point where they lost control? Two on one, passed out in vehicle, but two trained officers shouldn't be able too handle that?
This is exactly the problem. Had they cuffed him immediately, before they even knew what was happening, many would call that abuse. They handled it gently, and it resulted in a death.

We don't know if the guy was running away or was preparing to turn and attack. This is a terrible situation, I am sorry for the guy that got killed, but also for what the officer will have to go through (assuming he feared for his life).
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This is exactly the problem. Had they cuffed him immediately, before they even knew what was happening, many would call that abuse. They handled it gently, and it resulted in a death.

We don't know if the guy was running away or was preparing to turn and attack. This is a terrible situation, I am sorry for the guy that got killed, but also for what the officer will have to go through (assuming he feared for his life).
It's called detaining. If the cops felt the situation might eventually escalate that's what should have happened. Again, these were two trained officers, who made some mistakes that ended in a man dead. They made mistakes that they shouldn't have, that a trained officer shouldn't make, and the guy is now a corpse. That's on them and they deserve too be punished.
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