You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
My dude, you came in here and said him being killed by cops was karma.
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You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
It's too bad you're going. Not because you contributed anything of value but because you'll just move on until you find an echo chamber that will validate your beliefs and won't fact check your posts.
I get it. It sucks being in the minority. Ironic, isn't it?
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I am sure Denver is different but here I believe having a resource officer is a good thing as it allows them to develop a relationship with students that is not based on confrontation. My friend is a principal at a high school and speaks very highly of the officers he has dealt with and is a proponent of having them, completely apart from and security they may provide. It seems it should be a core part of the community policing philosophy.
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I am sure Denver is different but here I believe having a resource officer is a good thing as it allows them to develop a relationship with students that is not based on confrontation. My friend is a principal at a high school and speaks very highly of the officers he has dealt with and is a proponent of having them, completely apart from and security they may provide. It seems it should be a core part of the community policing philosophy.
Are they just replacing the resource officer with a social worker perhaps? It seems to me the uniform, position, gun(?) is the problem and having a different appearanced person doing pretty much the same job would reduce tensions?
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Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
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I am sure Denver is different but here I believe having a resource officer is a good thing as it allows them to develop a relationship with students that is not based on confrontation. My friend is a principal at a high school and speaks very highly of the officers he has dealt with and is a proponent of having them, completely apart from and security they may provide. It seems it should be a core part of the community policing philosophy.
The vote represents a victory for community activists who have pressed the district for more than a decade to remove sworn officers from campus because of the higher rate at which students of color are referred to law enforcement.
There’s plenty of anecdotal evidence from people who both approve of and dislike the decision.
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I don't know about your experiences with the school cop, and mine was a long time ago, but our school cop didn't do a whole lot of "developing relationships"
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I don't know about your experiences with the school cop, and mine was a long time ago, but our school cop didn't do a whole lot of "developing relationships"
Fair enough. My high school experience was before cops were invented. But my daughter went to Scarlett and when I was there with her the cop was a female who was just hanging around shooting the #### with kids. That was a good impression but highly anecdotal of course. And a high school serving 'affluent' communities. It just seems like a good idea if implemented properly, with the right personnel and mandate. Clearly, that is not the case everywhere, if anywhere.
Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
I have found Calgary cops to be friendly. Just the other day I saw a couple of them “walking the beat” who were approached by a woman and they exchanged a few words that ended in laughter. She was pretty and white for whatever that’s worth. That’s the way it should be for everyone.
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I don't know about your experiences with the school cop, and mine was a long time ago, but our school cop didn't do a whole lot of "developing relationships"
In fairness, our school cop was pretty cordial with us. He worked with the chaplain a lot, who was a young guy and a pretty good counselor. I can't speak for the kids who were more trouble though, I wasn't cool
Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
It’s because even as a law abiding citizen your interactions with them consist of only negative situations.
- driving infractions
- jay walking
- open liquor in a park
- open liquor / no life jacket when floating
- them telling you there is nothing they can do for a break and enter
While the number of police officers correlated with reduced crime a law abiding citizen doesn’t see any of that and mostly law abiding citizens just see issues.
It’s why the stop and frisk policies are so terrible.
You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
Thanked for you leaving the site.
Maybe this thread can carry on with actual news and discussion now.
Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
This is so well put. And thanking it is not enough.
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Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
That explains the monocle and top hat.
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Our school cop was mainly concerned about kids doing/dealing drugs in the bathroom. They were all quite cordial.
Acid was popular then and a student had committed suicide while tripping. Somebody’s older brother was turning kids onto it.
My dad’s cop cousin was with us for a while. He was a detective, but there was some kind of controversy with a case and he needed a break for a bit.
That was in New Jersey, junior high. I don’t recall seeing any cops in my Florida high school. We needed them there for sure; social workers even more so.
Would anyone voluntary walk up to a police officer and have a conversation? Do they come across as friendly, or do you think they'd tell you to move along and #### off?
I don't understand why we live in a society where me, a law abiding citizen, loathes interacting with the police. It just doesn't make sense. They should be there to help. They should be part of the community and someone you trust. I struggle with this. If it's like that for me, a white, upper middle class, male, what is is it like for a poor indigenous person?
I am not making excuses for cops. But we have put them in a tough spot. Their jobs are garbage. They are asked to be law enforcement, social workers, community outreach and protection.
How can we not see that we have given them an impossible task. The worst job imaginable, to deal with the worst we have to throw at them, every single day. They are often given little support, other than being told "This is the job you chose" and then asked to act like paragons, when they are treated like devils.
Their jobs beat them down day in and day out. To the point that they are constantly burnt out, run down, and wary of every single encounter they have in the community because they know everyone hates them just on site. And yet, they still have to do their jobs, as currently defined, because there is no one else to do it.
I do not excuse any cops actions. They are responsible for the good or ill they do. I do think that we as a society need to better define their roll, give support where it's needed, and start developing new roles and better fund those new roles and put people into those roles that are SUITED for them.
I know a lot of cops. They are frigging amazing people. They didn't become cops to power trip on people. They did it because they want to make a change. And they are browbeaten and #### on every day of their careers.
I wanted to be a cop when I was younger. I taught Taekwondo to about 8 cops as I grew up from 14-18. In those 4 years, the gross stories and complete despondence I sensed from those cops from the absolute garbage #### they see on a day to day basis, showed me that is not a career for the faint of heart and that it probably wasn't going to be for me.
There is no excuse for a cop to kill anyone unless there is absolutely no other single way to stop them from doing harm to others, even at the expense of the officers life. But maybe we need to change our own perceptions as well, and wonder why we as a community treat our law enforcement poorly for just doing their day to day jobs. Which we ourselves would never want to do.
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I think another way to look at is is that cops get to be hero's too. I'd love to pull someone from a burning car. Or save a helpless kid from a bad guy. That's what you sign up for as well.
I think the answer is some sort of job rotation. You're likely just getting good at your job after a couple years. But you;re also likely to get burned out. There's a sweet spot there where it would make sense to mandate some other work for a time.
