Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[troutman]

Originally Posted by activestick

warning for language. I don't understand how someone can hate black people and supporters of equality so much. This guy is so angry - blows my mind.

**press release**

chief bill dial asst. Chief bridger kelch
protests over the death of george floyd have been ongoing in whitefish since monday night. Crowds of approximately 60 to 70 individuals have been peacefully protesting adjacent to whitefish city hall and at 2nd and spokane. During last night’s protest an individual became confrontational with the protestors and police intervened, removing the individual from the scene. The subject, jay snowden 51 of whitefish, was charged with one count of disorderly conduct this morning after whitefish police consulted with the whitefish city prosecutor. Snowden has an initial court date of june 17, 2020.
The city of whitefish is dedicated to protecting the first amendment rights of individuals to peacefully protest and ask all who are involved to respect each other’s rights and protest peacefully.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I haven’t posted in a while but the hyperbole in this post is too ridiculous to not comment on.

The labour movement has always been one of the biggest proponents for racial equity and civil rights in general. I don’t know how one could try to argue that getting rid of or reducing Unions wouldn’t do more harm than good for any people who’ve been unjustly marginalized by society.

Getting rid of police Unions does nothing to address the systemic issues that leads to officers being acquitted of criminal charges for their misconduct. The Unions don’t control the laws that lead to these acquittals. I’m not even sure that the Unions would be involved at all in the event an officer were to be criminally charged as that would not be a labour relations matter but that’s a whole other discussion. In any event, Union or no Union, until the laws are changed officers will continue to avoid being held accountable.

You’re scratching the surface of the problem so instead of taking the opportunity to grandstand with the Fox News or Rebel media flavoured anti-Union rhetoric of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories and factually inaccurate statements, try to keep digging and you may actually come up with some solutions to the real problem.

While I would generally agree with you I am just old enough to remember when union membership was, in many chapels (locals here), barred to persons of colour and Irish (and women in truth) in the UK, it was when I was a kid but I grew up in a strongly pro union family and was well aware of both the good and the bad that comes with a closed shop via my grandad and uncles.

Unions reflect their membership, if the membership are a bunch of racist ######bags, which in the 60's was largely the case in the UK, then the union will be as well, this also explains the police union in the states now

[icecube]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Warning for language. I don't understand how someone can hate black people and supporters of equality so much. This guy is so angry - blows my mind.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1268445494251909123

You’re watching a grown man throw a child like tantrum because he feels threatened as he watches the power structure of white supremacy in America beginning to topple over.

What will a mediocre turd like him have any more if he can’t go around telling himself “at least I’m treated better than people who aren’t white”

That’s pretty much what it boils down to.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by getbak

I BELIEVE IT'S TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM POSTING PAGE-LONG RANTS IN ALL-CAPS THAT WILL JUST ANNOY PEOPLE AND PROBABLY START (OR ESCALATE) A HUGE ARGUMENT.

OF COURSE, ALL IT TAKES TO CANCEL IT OUT, IS A SINGLE LOwER CASE LETTER IN THE POST.

I wIsH iT wOuLd FiLtEr OuT tHiS aNnOyInG mIxEd CaSe

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

While I would generally agree with you I am just old enough to remember when union membership was, in many chapels (locals here), barred to persons of colour and Irish (and women in truth) in the UK, it was when I was a kid but I grew up in a strongly pro union family and was well aware of both the good and the bad that comes with a closed shop via my grandad and uncles.

I wasn’t trying to imply Unions have been perfect throughout their history, however they played a major role in changing the status quo of those days, and they continue to do so. Many Unions allowed women and people of colour to be members and vote long before they had the right to vote in civic, state or federal elections and were instrumental in the fight to get them the right to vote.

Unions reflect their membership, if the membership are a bunch of racist ######bags, which in the 60's was largely the case in the UK, then the union will be as well, this also explains the police union in the states now

I hope you’re aware that there isn’t one single Union that represents all police officers in the states. As far as I’m aware most police Unions are associations or part of larger Unions who represent workers in various industries. While I agree they reflect their membership I think it’s a pretty big generalization to try and paint them all with the same brush.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I wasn’t trying to imply Unions have been perfect throughout their history, however they played a major role in changing the status quo of those days, and they continue to do so. Many Unions allowed women and people of colour to be members and vote long before they had the right to vote in civic, state or federal elections and were instrumental in the fight to get them the right to vote.



I hope you’re aware that there isn’t one single Union that represents all police officers in the states. As far as I’m aware most police Unions are associations or part of larger Unions who represent workers in various industries. While I agree they reflect their membership I think it’s a pretty big generalization to try and paint them all with the same brush.

No disagreement from me, I have never crossed a picket line in my life, Christ I wont even use self checkout, union till I die

[GirlySports]

Holy ####.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1270059322806923264

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Holy ####.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1270059322806923264

Wow and the command to slash tires came from the state lead command center...

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[MarchHare]

How many of the people who had their tires slashed were subsequently arrested for breaking curfew because they were stranded without a way home?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Krovikan

Wow and the command to slash tires came from the state lead command center...

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It's stuff like this that shows why peaceful protests turn to violence.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It's stuff like this that shows why peaceful protests turn to violence.

which is why they do it

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I haven’t posted in a while but the hyperbole in this post is too ridiculous to not comment on.

The labour movement has always been one of the biggest proponents for racial equity and civil rights in general. I don’t know how one could try to argue that getting rid of or reducing Unions wouldn’t do more harm than good for any people who’ve been unjustly marginalized by society.

Getting rid of police Unions does nothing to address the systemic issues that leads to officers being acquitted of criminal charges for their misconduct. The Unions don’t control the laws that lead to these acquittals. I’m not even sure that the Unions would be involved at all in the event an officer were to be criminally charged as that would not be a labour relations matter but that’s a whole other discussion. In any event, Union or no Union, until the laws are changed officers will continue to avoid being held accountable.

You’re scratching the surface of the problem so instead of taking the opportunity to grandstand with the Fox News or Rebel media flavoured anti-Union rhetoric of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories and factually inaccurate statements, try to keep digging and you may actually come up with some solutions to the real problem.

I swear if the word union is ever typed into this forum anywhere you get an instant notification and roll up immediately. I definitely don't agree with your view point on them. But I do love it that anytime unions are mentioned your bound to show up within a few posts and defend them no matter what. Not being sarcastic either. I genuinely look forward to seeing you pop up when a union is mentioned literally anywhere in this forum.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I swear if the word union is ever typed into this forum anywhere you get an instant notification and roll up immediately. I definitely don't agree with your view point on them. But I do love it that anytime unions are mentioned your bound to show up within a few posts and defend them no matter what. Not being sarcastic either. I genuinely look forward to seeing you pop up when a union is mentioned literally anywhere in this forum.

Just don't mention tipping at restaurants. Oops, what have I started?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I swear if the word union is ever typed into this forum anywhere you get an instant notification and roll up immediately. I definitely don't agree with your view point on them. But I do love it that anytime unions are mentioned your bound to show up within a few posts and defend them no matter what. Not being sarcastic either. I genuinely look forward to seeing you pop up when a union is mentioned literally anywhere in this forum.

Actually that was the first post I’d made in months, and the post I was quoting certainly wasn’t the only anti-Union post made on the forum in that time. Are you sure you weren’t being sarcastic?

In any event I kinda get a kick out of the anti-Union posters who can’t be bothered to comment on the content of my posts and instead resort to these kinds of silly personal attacks. So thanks, you really showed me.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

How many of the people who had their tires slashed were subsequently arrested for breaking curfew because they were stranded without a way home?

And/or assaulted by police because they didn't have a quick way home?

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I haven’t posted in a while but the hyperbole in this post is too ridiculous to not comment on.
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I just want to say it's good to see Iggy back regardless of whether we agree or disagree with his posts. Never a good thing (to me) when someone suddenly vanishes from the boards.

[GirlySports]

This defunding the police is interesting.


What would be example of something police handles today but would not handle in the new proposed system?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

This defunding the police is interesting.


What would be example of something police handles today but would not handle in the new proposed system?

You mean beyond murder, slashing tires, beating up the elderly and pepper spraying and shooting people exercising their first amendment rights? Hmmm...

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You mean beyond murder, slashing tires, beating up the elderly and pepper spraying and shooting people exercising their first amendment rights? Hmmm...

That's not going to stop with restructuring or defunding.

[PsYcNeT]

I dunno, what does Public Education pare back on when Conservatives vote to defund it?

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