Everyone supporting riots in this thread is just lip service. Nobody has any skin in the game. When I see a video of you burning down your house I’ll believe you actually are legit. Until then you’re just fine with other people losing their life’s work as long as you’re life stays intact.
Yeah, it's hard to really understand what the people that have had their property or businesses destroyed are going through. I feel for them.
It's probably just as hard to understand the frustration of people of colour that has led them to this point.
I don't think anyone wants riots or violence. When NFL players took a knee they were told they were disrespecting the flag and military and to find a better way to protest. When people said "Black Lives Matter" they were shunned by those who responded with "All Lives Matter". When they peacefully protest they are told that they are interfering with traffic and business. No matter what's been tried it hasn't been good enough and has led to little change. Unfortunately, history has demonstrated too often that extreme acts have a better chance at real change. I wish there was a better way that would force those in power to listen, but generally speaking, minorities have very little sway in the halls of power and the lobby for the status quo has deep pockets.
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Everyone supporting riots in this thread is just lip service. Nobody has any skin in the game. When I see a video of you burning down your house I’ll believe you actually are legit. Until then you’re just fine with other people losing their life’s work as long as you’re life stays intact.
What is this nonsense? Supporting rioting as a historical moving factor for needed change doesn't equal rioting yourself when you don't even live in said country. What a crock of a stupid comment.
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For all the "this isn't changing anything" people: Americans' perception of the police has dropped drastically in one week.
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WASHINGTON – The perception of police by white Americans has dropped by double digits in just one week, as police continue to target peaceful protesters, bystanders and journalists amid nationwide demonstrations focusing on systemic racism facing black Americans.
We have no way of knowing currently if this will result in change. Change is not immediate. This is a place we'll have to return to in hindsight.
And here’s why this matters, and why the “well people should be more respectful of property when protesting against the devaluation of their lives!” can’t figure it out.
Peaceful protesting is not effective. Rioting and looting is not effective. These things alone do not bring change. HOWEVER, violence from those in power has historically been a requirement for needed change, it draws attention from people who otherwise would think “well I’m not black so I don’t relate.” Do we know if rioting and looting helped raise the stakes? Impossible to be sure, but maybe. And by raising the stakes you’ve seen police attack peaceful protestors, journalists, and even old white people who just generally were doing nothing wrong.
Violence is required for change, it always has been. The key is to show yourselves as the victim of violent oppressors, and the police have handed this movement that in spades.
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Everyone supporting riots in this thread is just lip service. Nobody has any skin in the game. When I see a video of you burning down your house I’ll believe you actually are legit. Until then you’re just fine with other people losing their life’s work as long as you’re life stays intact.
So you're saying I have to burn down my house to show support to the Black Lives Matter movement?
So you're saying I have to burn down my house to show support to the Black Lives Matter movement?
Man you've completely lost the message here.
Yes. So get to it.
Dont forget to stream it live so we can all watch otherwise we wont believe you actually did it and then you'll just have to burn down the house of a loved one.
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Everyone supporting riots in this thread is just lip service. Nobody has any skin in the game. When I see a video of you burning down your house I’ll believe you actually are legit. Until then you’re just fine with other people losing their life’s work as long as you’re life stays intact.
Since this one didn't work you can try these other textbook responses that get trotted out by the right when they don't like protests:
1) innocent people are now living in fear of these vicious rioters
2) this protest is going to kill our economy
Since this one didn't work you can try these other textbook responses that get trotted out by the right when they don't like protests:
1) innocent people are now living in fear of these vicious rioters
2) this protest is going to kill our economy
3) they're just trying to dethrone god
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Defund the police? And replace it with what? Anarchy?
Well...presumably Robocop.
Omni Consumer Products was supposedly a few years away from principle rollout and with all of the new information we have now indicating that just making someone who is already a Police officer into an inhuman Policing machine is going to carry along with it some problems of its own.
They might have to go back to the drawing board on that one.
In the meantime the Police shall be replaced by an army of Roombas with Police lights and sirens affixed to them.
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Majority of Minneapolis city council is looking at dismantling the police force.
I'd expect the gun shops and manufacturers are looking at record sales over the next few weeks.
For clarification, because I've seen a ridiculous amount of misinformation about this over the past few days, what Minneapolis is proposing isn't anarchy and lawlessness. It's not a return to the Wild West. Someone from the government will still answer the phone and send help if you call 911. What they're planning to do is replace their existing police force with a new citizen-centric model of public safety and law enforcement.
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Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio, a black protester was standing in the street holding a sign above her head. She was flanked by two male protesters. None of them were posing any threat to anyone. The cops shot her anyway.
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Omni Consumer Products was supposedly a few years away from principle rollout and with all of the new information we have now indicating that just making someone who is already a Police officer into an inhuman Policing machine is going to carry along with it some problems of its own.
They might have to go back to the drawing board on that one.
In the meantime the Police shall be replaced by an army of Roombas with Police lights and sirens affixed to them.
apparently the army of inhuman policing machines is refusing to kill persons of colour for no good reason, when ordered too they just repeat 'it is not logical, does not compute!' and then the main CPU starts smoking and giving off sparks.
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Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio, a black protester was standing in the street holding a sign above her head. She was flanked by two male protesters. None of them were posing any threat to anyone. The cops shot her anyway.
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In fairness to the Police though that one guy is clearly a Cyclist and those people are inherently untrustworthy. He has likely broken several laws so they should be encouraged to fire away.
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apparently the army of inhuman policing machines is refusing to kill persons of colour for no good reason, when ordered too they just repeat 'it is not logical, does not compute!' and then the main CPU starts smoking and giving off sparks.
Thats actually against Union policy. They're probably going to get written up for disobedience.
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Regarding the disbanding of the Police Department, I saw this article about what happened in Camden, NJ (a suburb of Philadelphia) after they disbanded and reformed their Police Department in 2013: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/...camden/549542/
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After a particularly deadly year in 1995, Camden’s Cathedral of Immaculate Conception began illuminating one candle for each homicide victim. In 2012, the year ended with 67 candles—a rate of about 87 murders per 100,000 residents, which ranked Camden fifth nationwide.
But on New Year’s 2018, just 22 candles were lit: The city’s murder rate fell to its lowest since 1987. The number of annual killings has been in decline since 2012; so have robberies, aggravated assaults, violent crimes, property crimes, and non-fatal shooting incidents.
So what’s happening in this city, which for many years has been deemed among the dangerous in America? Thomson, who took the helm of the Camden police force in 2008, says the biggest factor may have been the change in structure of the department itself. In 2013, the Camden Police Department was disbanded, reimagined, and born again as the Camden County Police Department, with fewer officers, lower pay—and a strategic shift toward “community policing.”
That meant focusing on rebuilding trust between the community and their officers.
“For us to make the neighborhood look and feel the way everyone wanted it to, it wasn’t going to be achieved by having a police officer with a helmet and a shotgun standing on a corner,” Thomson said. Now, he wants his officers “to identify more with being in the Peace Corps than being in the Special Forces.”
Across the board, 2019's overall crime numbers were down from 2017's, except for 2 more murders, which were still less than half of 2012 and 2013's totals.
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