My point is do we miss Hamonic? Would a cheaper contract from Stockton be worse?
Yelesin could be worse but who knows? Maybe he's better. A lot of great teams didn't come together until they called guys up and let them play. Even last year's Flames were beneficiaries of the opportuntieis Kylington, Czarnik, Mangiapane, Rittich, Quine, and a few others were being given (and then that got cut down hard after the all star break)
I'm with you in that you shouldn't overplay a guy because of what he was able to do five years ago. Distribute minutes based on actual performance, not experience and your irrational fear of playing other guys.
In a perfect world every player is slotted based on their performance not based on their name recognition. But we don't have the luxury of a coach like Laviolette or Sullivan who operate that way.
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In fact do we miss Gio right now ? Maybe its time to let go of over paid vets
Yes we miss Gio. Not against the Sharks or Canucks, but we're going to need him against the real heavy hitters. IMO we miss having Brodie on the right too. But it's absolutely great that the injury to Gio opened up an opportunity for someone - anyone - to play PP1 because Gio was not getting the job done but was getting undeserved minutes much like certain other veteran players in other situations.
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####ing Lucic?!? I tuned in to watch one of Jumbo’s and/or Patty’s last game. Watching that ass score makes this extremely in unpleasant.
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What is more embarrasing? Getting scored on by Lucic, or losing season series to Detroit?
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#### Loosecheek He’s right up there with the Perry’s and D. Browns of the world.
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Lucic scores, season officially over
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Milan Lucic with the frosted tips?! What year is this?!?!
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I called a Looch goal
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This is some baaad D.
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Goddamn it Simek…
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Simek screwed that play totally
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Yeah looked shellshocked after his turnover…
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Clearing the puck out of the D-zone
might be a good thing to do
Simek Simek ya, Simek yam, Shimek yay
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Ha ha. This is going well.
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I hope we keep seeing the Sharks not the Shorks.
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Two mistakes by Simek for two goals so far. Hmmm
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This is what we know.
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He has just not been good this year. People are expecting him to replace Dillon next season but I don't see it happening.
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Simek in panic mode.
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God damnit Simek. Second goal on him.
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Yall know we cant start a game unless we’re down by two
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Simek. Get your head out of your ass man.
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Simek -2 and off to a bad start.
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To answer the thread question, maybe the Sharks didn't realize they play a game today.
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So maybe we shouldnt resign Simek?
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Shame, the first 3 mins actually looked okay, but some poor coverage since then.
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Being down 2-0 to a good road team is one thing. Being down 2-0 when the goalscorers are Lucic and Rieder is rough. It's been a while since they've played but they have to wake up quick or this will get out of hand.
Red Hot Zac Globetrotter
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Lmao Lucic, Reider and Ronaldo. Could we let three worse players score?
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Zac ####ing Rinaldo
Damn our high priced inept Defense is doing us great!
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ROFL! Some hot goal scorers tonight for Calgary.
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HOT goal scorers for Calgary SO HOT THESE GUYS.
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Sharks getting run outta their own building. Clowned by freaking Zac Rinaldo, Tobias Reider, Dillon Dube, and Milan Lucic of all people.
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Calgary didn't even have to work for the puck in that zone possession, sharks just wouldn't stop fumbling it
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Calgary Globetrotters
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Man we look sloppy and slow to start this game. Bunch of players out of position, not moving their feet and too many blind passes.
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what the #### are the sharks doing in the d zone. horrible
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Can we just forfeit?
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lulz
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Field goal is good for the Flames.
Dell could only do so much...
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thats somepoor d zone coverage
down by a field goal already
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Holy #### Rinaldo and Lucic scored against us lmao
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Coverage and gaps just terrible.
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It appears I’ve showed up for a real #### show
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Welp
That’s what happen when you don’t play defense
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Karlsson slapping the puck into the boards but having a chance to step up and take a stick or body and not is bull####. Mind you everyone else was puck watching the entire time while dell kicked rebounds but still. Take a ####ing body or stick.
At least it rhymes
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good lord these officials buying what Johnny Floppy is selling
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WHAT IS THAT **** CALL
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lmao....nice call stripes
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More diving
This time ol Johnny Floppy himself
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Remember when the Canucks were the kings of diving?
McLooch off Jankowski’s crest
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Aaaaand right back to emotionless, zero-effort hockey. Those two games were fun to watch, Sharks.
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Tough break. Meier did everything right, broke up the play, still had enough juice to bounce in. Bummer.
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This is just ridiculous. We were finally playing decent and that happens.
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Right in the "C" Patty
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No puck luck
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I guess live by the sword die by the sword. With the D pushing and activating we gotta watch the breakaways more now.
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Do both lucic and Rinaldo really have 2 pts each? Jesus
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Wow, the bounces for Calgary are insane right now
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That Jankowski goal was lucky AF. I know I sound whiny but damn we can’t catch a break.
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What a ####ing frustrating period, we put in so much fantastic work and they still end up with an absolutely BS flukey goal
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Forgot there was a game
Checked the box score
Jankowski
Rieder
Rinaldo
Lucic
This team is ****ing garbage and I don't care if any of them are on the roster next year
Grow a sack you bunch of god damn embarrassments
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Why did they play TNT when the Flames scored? That’s the Flames’ home goal song.
Between the Legs Bardown
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and the Canadian media will call him out for that right?
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nah, just Adam Oates.
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Hahahaha it looks like Tkachuk said “too easy” after his goal. Gotta hand it to him it was a dope as #### goal.
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oh jesus christ that was slick
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that was very pretty tkachuk, you diving bastard.
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Oof. I hate Tkachuk, but you gotta give credit when it's due. That's a spectacular goal.
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It's hard to believe the Sharks have 5 guys out there right now. Somehow every Flames player has several feet of space when they get the puck. Guys like Lucic, Rieder and Rinaldo won't have problems scoring when it's that easy for them.
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That....that was nice.
Dammit.
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Great move, but it'd be nice if Simek didn't just watch him skate in.
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Don't even care they aren't even playing anymore
Backlund Salts the Wound
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To answer the question posed by the GDT title: No, there was no game. There was only assault and battery.
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So many unlucky bounces and #### puck luck already
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These players and their hand eye is absolutely mind boggling. Unreal pass.
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Guys, guys, I got it... I figured it out.
Calgary is better than us.
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lol taking the piss out of us now
Great way to Crush the confidence of Dell
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Jones
Really does look like a shell of a man over there on the bench. I do feel bad for him
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This is too much action, I can't handle it
Scoreboard Watch
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God damnit he's good at hockey. We passed that mother####er up for Puljujarvi
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Alright that goal was ####in dirty lol wow
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Holy #### that was a ####ing LASER
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Of course the Sharks roll over for the Flames. So predictable
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What a disgustingly close log jam of a playoff race...
Oilers/Vegas/Jets/Yotes/Phlegms all separated by 1 point
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Flames have a butter soft schedule coming up wow...the California push overs including the Ducks twice and Chicago squeezed in there...plus the Detroit gimme
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every single game is exactly what i didnt want.
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Gotta love how the Sharks and Preds no show tonight but against us they look like world beaters in a game 7.
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You know you’re bad when Junkowski scores.
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Out of town scoreboard is not very good tonight .
Suddenly the game against Chicago tomorrow (possibly without Connor) feels like a must win.
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I think a lot of people here underrate both Hamonic and Stone.
Hamonic is a legit top 4 dman and he’s the type of player all teams could use.
Stone is reliable depth that is now on a cheap contract.
I love Hamonic's fearless warrior attitude, but it has been hard on his body, and I'm not convinced that he's still a top 4 D on a Cup contender. But I do believe that he and Kylington would be among the league's best 3rd pairings.
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We just need to find the right partner for him. It wasn't Brodie and it hasn't been Hanifin.
Because those didn’t work out I’m not sure Kylington will either, even though the “stay at home partner of the freewheeler” sounds good on paper. But it makes the most sense unless you play Hamonic with Gio (and then you have to find a new partner for Brodie).
My point is do we miss Hamonic? Would a cheaper contract from Stockton be worse?
In fact do we miss Gio right now ? Maybe its time to let go of over paid vets
Ps i am not saying Gio is over paid etc before i get bombarded with replies
If you are talking about re-signing Hamonic for next year, and the overall cap structure, fine, that’s a conversation to have. But for the rest of this year it makes zero difference. But to answer you, yes, a cheaper contract would be way worse than Hamonic. Stone isn’t as good, nor is Davidson, Yelisen, etc.
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Yelesin could be worse but who knows? Maybe he's better. A lot of great teams didn't come together until they called guys up and let them play. Even last year's Flames were beneficiaries of the opportuntieis Kylington, Czarnik, Mangiapane, Rittich, Quine, and a few others were being given (and then that got cut down hard after the all star break)
I'm with you in that you shouldn't overplay a guy because of what he was able to do five years ago. Distribute minutes based on actual performance, not experience and your irrational fear of playing other guys.
In a perfect world every player is slotted based on their performance not based on their name recognition. But we don't have the luxury of a coach like Laviolette or Sullivan who operate that way.
Yes we miss Gio. Not against the Sharks or Canucks, but we're going to need him against the real heavy hitters. IMO we miss having Brodie on the right too. But it's absolutely great that the injury to Gio opened up an opportunity for someone - anyone - to play PP1 because Gio was not getting the job done but was getting undeserved minutes much like certain other veteran players in other situations.
Another thing in my opinion that has happened is that Matthew Tkachuk has grabbed the bull by the horns and dragged this team through without Gio and also lucic has stepped up
Because those didn’t work out I’m not sure Kylington will either, even though the “stay at home partner of the freewheeler” sounds good on paper. But it makes the most sense unless you play Hamonic with Gio (and then you have to find a new partner for Brodie).
But what if Kylington-Stone or Kylington-Davidson are a better third pair?
What makes the most sense is to get the best assets we can for Hamonic at the deadline as we did for Glencross back in 2015.
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The D pairings seem to work so far. I hate that Gio and Hamonic are injured but they do look good.
Tons of chances again, Dell was almost chased.
Speaking strictly of this season, outside of a handful of games, I feel like Giordano and Hamonic were playing below average to average hockey (respective to where they've been slotted).
Honestly I have had a gut feeling that we wouldn't see a massive drop off if those guys went down. Rasmus has been ready for as much responsibility as he can handle. And if anything there is more jump with new blood back there.
It doesn't make the captain expendable by any means, but him and Hamonic have been rather uninspiring outside of the odd game. It wasn't hard to replace the "average" game they've brought to the table this season.
Maybe Mark could use the break and rest. It might serve him well, he's been rode pretty hard with high expectations on his shoulders.
On the subject of leadership, I'm firmly of the belief that Tkachuk is the captain this team needs. He may not be the all around professional that Giordano is, but he has the "it" factor and not taking any #### attitude that makes his comrades want to rally and play hard around him.
This team has been starving for that... someone with a pulse to follow.
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If you are talking about re-signing Hamonic for next year, and the overall cap structure, fine, that’s a conversation to have. But for the rest of this year it makes zero difference. But to answer you, yes, a cheaper contract would be way worse than Hamonic. Stone isn’t as good, nor is Davidson, Yelisen, etc.
I am saying hamonic is getting more minutes because of his name and what he done a few years ago. Hamonic today is a 3rd pairing d man who is overpaid and i would prefer if we gave a cheaper option his minutes and put the money elsewhere.
How can you say Yelisen isnt an upgrade without seeing him play?
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I am saying hamonic is getting more minutes because of his name and what he done a few years ago. Hamonic today is a 3rd pairing d man who is overpaid and i would prefer if we gave a cheaper option his minutes and put the money elsewhere.
How can you say Yelisen isnt an upgrade without seeing him olay?
Hamonic is an experienced legitimate NHL defenceman who has been a top 4 D for most of his career. Yelesin has never played an NHL game and isn't exactly burning up the AHL.
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He admits that he replaced Lindholm for the faceoff to "deal with the situation". Asked about the chatter on the ice prior to that, jokes about how there was a "little bit until I stepped on the ice, then it all went quiet".
Eric Francis then again tried to assert that he was only out there with Monahan and Gaudreau by mistake for some reason, despite the fact that Rinaldo clearly replaced Lindholm specifically because of Kane's chirping.
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