[PGT] 5-4 Blues in a SO

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Amazing how one rough game can undo everything Talbot was doing before hand around here. Impressive.

I wouldn't say that's the sentiment in this thread. It was just an awful night by him.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

I think it does show the calls for Talbot to take the starter's role or play 50/50 with Rittich were waaay premature.

I feel much more confident with BSD in net. I think he's clearly the starter and has been all year.

[troutman]

Where have you gone Jusso Valimaki? Flames Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

[UKflames]

I think Talbots critics are being a bit hard. If you look the goals at least two of them are due to blown coverage by the D, leaving a many wide open on the back door both times. Then you have the fact that on both of those goals the puck went through multiple players to get there.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

I think it does show the calls for Talbot to take the starter's role or play 50/50 with Rittich were waaay premature.

I feel much more confident with BSD in net. I think he's clearly the starter and has been all year.

It seems to me that this reprimand is essentially guilty of the same thing. Yes, calls for Talbot to play the starter’s role have definitively been premature, but this was ONE game, and I don’t see evidence in this performance of anything but a rusty goalie who hasn’t played in two weeks. I continue to believe that the workload between Talbot and Rittich will be close to a 2:1 split down the stretch, with Rittich drawing around twenty of the remaining starts. The Flames still need Talbot to play regularly, and to play well.

[burn_this_city]

I'd caution reading too much into goaltending performances after almost 2 weeks off. Even Binnington looked like garbage last night.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by UKflames

I think Talbots critics are being a bit hard. If you look the goals at least two of them are due to blown coverage by the D, leaving a many wide open on the back door both times. Then you have the fact that on both of those goals the puck went through multiple players to get there.

I don’t think Talbot played well at all, but I also believe a big part of that was the fourteen days he sat between starts. Talbot should have played the Ottawa game.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Monahan played 1 minute of OT.

11seconds of the two full minute pp.

Lucic had 28 seconds of OT pp time










Why.

What!? If this is true it's an epic fail. Potentially the most clutch (in terms of GWG) player in flames history, who's already potted two on the evening, not playing in sudden death?

That is a severe lapse in judgement.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

What!? If this is true it's an epic fail. Potentially the most clutch (in terms of GWG) player in flames history, who's already potted two on the evening, not playing in sudden death?

That is a severe lapse in judgement.

The power play was 3/3 heading into OT, Lucic hadn't gotten a single second of PP icetime up to that point.

3 defenders played 1 minute + on a 4-3 power play.

Players on that power play by most to least icetime

Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Lindholm
Giordano
Brodie
Anderson
Lucic
Monahan

That's some Galaxy brain strategizing.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Red

Sit Bennett. Does little and likes to take needless penalties. Oilers have a great PP.

I thought Bennett was very good last night.

There are certainly more than enough games on his log this year that suggest a healthy scratch, but last night wasn't one of them.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Didn’t the Flames have more high danger chances in the Ottawa game as well?
Save the dramatics.

Ottawa games was 12-10 Calgary
Blues game was 12-3 Calgary

Pretty much matches the eye test in both cases. Lots of shots and possession in Ottawa but not a big advantage in scoring chances.

Vs outplaying St. Louis but losing out on the goalie battle.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The power play was 3/3 heading into OT, Lucic hadn't gotten a single second of PP icetime up to that point.

3 defenders played 1 minute + on a 4-3 power play.

Players on that power play by most to least icetime

Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Lindholm
Giordano
Brodie
Anderson
Lucic
Monahan

That's some Galaxy brain strategizing.

Well, Lucic would have been on the second unit on the previous PPs, but they scored quickly.

I agree Monahan should have been on unless there was some reason we don't know about - slight injury (that didn't hamper the shootout where he looked normal). I suppose maybe someone overstayed their shift after the first OT PP unit changed off.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by UKflames

I think Talbots critics are being a bit hard. If you look the goals at least two of them are due to blown coverage by the D, leaving a many wide open on the back door both times. Then you have the fact that on both of those goals the puck went through multiple players to get there.

I think everyone agrees the 2 backdoor goals were not on him. The one open shot where he left way too much net and the one where he didn't cover the puck were his fault, and also the one that got called back was soft. Plus he looked shaky on a bunch of shots that didn't go in.

No, he wasn't good at all. But I'm also not going to condemn him for the season over it. Rittich has had a couple bum outings as well.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I thought Bennett was very good last night.

There are certainly more than enough games on his log this year that suggest a healthy scratch, but last night wasn't one of them.

My thought wasn't based on one game. I'm looking at Bennett the player this season and past. He takes penalties a lot and the Oilers are deadly on a PP.

Limits t their opportunities this way without missing any real offence. His grit is replaced by Buddy.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, Lucic would have been on the second unit on the previous PPs, but they scored quickly.

I agree Monahan should have been on unless there was some reason we don't know about - slight injury (that didn't hamper the shootout where he looked normal). I suppose maybe someone overstayed their shift after the first OT PP unit changed off.

Ward clearly wanted Tkachuk as the net front presence, and Lindholm in the faceoff circle on his strong side (he won both draws). Regardless, You have to find a way to get Monahan out there for more than 10 seconds..

[Enoch Root]

Playing Talbot was the right decision from Ward, because Rittich is the right call for tonight's game. It isn't Ward's fault that Talbot played poorly, it's Talbot's. Unless you consider the Ottawa game, in which Talbot should have played. That's Ward's fault. Him having 17 days off (or whatever), that';s Ward's fault. But the call last night was the right one.

Where Ward effed up, was not having Monahan out there for the PP - I was starting at my TV in dis-belief? WTF? Was he injured? He better have been, because otherwise, that was the worst piece of coaching I have seen in a while. (and Ward has already lost me - he's in over his head).

Bennett had a great game. So did Johnny.

Robinson deserves another start after his effort last night. Leave him with Johnny for another game.

I predicted, before that game, that the Flames would come out flat. I was completely wrong - it was a great effort. And they would have gotten 2 points with decent goaltending.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Ward clearly wanted Tkachuk as the net front presence, and Lindholm in the faceoff circle on his strong side (he won both draws). Regardless, You have to find a way to get Monahan out there for more than 10 seconds..

It's OT. Nothing to lose. Go with:

Johnny
Monahan
Lindholm, and
Tkachuk

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Ward clearly wanted Tkachuk as the net front presence, and Lindholm in the faceoff circle on his strong side (he won both draws). Regardless, You have to find a way to get Monahan out there for more than 10 seconds..

I'm still wondering if someone didn't come off when they should have.

This seems like a question someone would have asked him post-game.

[Enoch Root]

Johnny and Lindholm up high/on the sides, Tkachuk down low, Monahan looking for open ice in the slot.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm still wondering if someone didn't come off when they should have.

This seems like a question someone would have asked him post-game.

Again, it's OT. Call a fricking timeout if Monahan is tired. But he has to be out there for that PP.

Worst player management I have seen in a long time.