2020 NFL Playoff Thread

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Glad i made you lose money! Suck it Seanucks!

Should have taken the easy money. Even the BC Lions would have beat the Eagles today.

Oh I did. I also don't like any BC team haha. Just thought you would find it funny

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Oh they have a chance for sure. A good one.

GB isnt "weak" though, they just aren't an offensive juggernaut like they once were. They run the ball more than they have in 20 years. Rodgers just doesnt have many options in the pass game beyond Adams and a running back.

Defensively though, they are a top 10 team in the league.

Frauds.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Oh they have a chance for sure. A good one.

Dunno about a good one. Wilson always has a puncher's chance with a couple of deep ball threats like Metcalf and Lockett, but realistically, Rodgers is going to really pick their secondary apart. They allowed what should have been five scores (the two 4th down turnovers were easy chip shot FGs) and the depleted Eagles and their 40 year old backup couldn't turn any of them into TDs. Sub in Rodgers in that game and he puts up what, 28 points? Conservatively?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Frauds.

Well if you say so.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Dunno about a good one. Wilson always has a puncher's chance with a couple of deep ball threats like Metcalf and Lockett, but realistically, Rodgers is going to really pick their secondary apart. They allowed what should have been five scores (the two 4th down turnovers were easy chip shot FGs) and the depleted Eagles and their 40 year old backup couldn't turn any of them into TDs. Sub in Rodgers in that game and he puts up what, 28 points? Conservatively?

Maybe.

I do know that Seattle is a whole lot more battle tested than Green Bay though and I think that goes a long long way in the playoffs.

Right now it looks like weather wont be a factor which helps the Hawks as well.

[Saint Troy]

Saints gagged today, but the fact that the Hawks got the worst team record wise is nonsense. I’m fine with the division winner getting an auto playoff spot, but record should decide seeding.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well at least in the CFL that could have been reviewed. I'm not sure the NFL will ever have the appetite to review roughing the passer.

If it was a sack, maybe, but he was running downfield, and as Corsi mentioned, didn’t give himself up.
Watch the play in real time and you don’t see any targeting or malicious intent.

If weather isn’t a factor, Seattle may have a shot at GB. But, the blocked fg was a big play and would’ve had it a two score game, it shows how Seattle lets teams hang around.

Eagles marched down the field twice to the red zone and then sputtered in the last 6 mins, something a guy who has been playing starting about for a decade like Rogers would get points from, as opposed to McCown who was coaching HS football a year ago ( full credit to him) and had likely a limited play set coming in cold.

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Dunno about a good one. Wilson always has a puncher's chance with a couple of deep ball threats like Metcalf and Lockett, but realistically, Rodgers is going to really pick their secondary apart. They allowed what should have been five scores (the two 4th down turnovers were easy chip shot FGs) and the depleted Eagles and their 40 year old backup couldn't turn any of them into TDs. Sub in Rodgers in that game and he puts up what, 28 points? Conservatively?

Which Packers team are you thinking of, they have had a very pedestrian offense down the stretch, pretty sure Rodgers went 2 for 11 to start the game against the Lions...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Reviewed for what? There was no rule broken as the rules are now.

NFL referee Shawn Smith's response to a pool reporter question on Jadeveon Clowney hit on Carson Wentz and why a penalty wasn't called:
"He was a runner and he did not give himself up. We saw incidental helmet contact, and in our judgement, we didn't rule that to be a foul."

As I said earlier. The nfl doesn’t want to change their “runner” rules. At least not yet.

Well that's their opinion. I realize Clowney isn't a dirty player but that's the kind of helmet to helmet hit they are trying to take out of the game because the outcome typically is a head injury as it was yesterday.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Yeah not only is Rodgers not even close to the God mode he was in from 2011-2016, but he was pretty mediocre this year overall, and at times looked straight up awful and not just relatively awful. Packers ability to run the ball has kind of masked that. No doubt at all the Seahawks have the best QB in this game on current form, and that always matters in a playoff game. Seahawks problem is their offensive line sucks and the Packers have a good defensive line, so giving Wilson the time to make plays is gonna be a struggle, and with no real running game to lean on it's gonna take a gargantuan effort of Russ magic. But the Packers, like the Seahawks, have made many games a lot closer than necessary, so it'll probably come down to who makes plays in the fourth quarter.

It was a strange wildcard weekend overall. All four games had a team with the ball and a chance to tie/win inside the last three minutes, but overall it felt like all four games were kinda poorly played and only really Minnesota was actually impressive, and even then it felt far more like a case of New Orleans taking them lightly than it was anything else. But it's survive and advance and as much as the four winners look likely to get blown out next week, they all might just win and give us the worst final four in history. Such is playoff life.

[GirlySports]

Packers all the way

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well that's their opinion. I realize Clowney isn't a dirty player but that's the kind of helmet to helmet hit they are trying to take out of the game because the outcome typically is a head injury as it was yesterday.

Again, not when it comes to runners running downfield. You have to realize that different situations have different rules in the NFL.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Again, not when it comes to runners running downfield. You have to realize that different situations have different rules in the NFL.

You are wrong as the officials are throwing flags for helmet to helmet on RB's and receivers. We saw the one yesterday in the Vikings/Saints game where they correctly picked up the flag because the other officials deemed it wasn't helmet to helmet. A helmet to helmet hit is 15 yards regardless of the situation. I totally disagree with the NFL claiming that helmet to helmet hit on Wentz was incidental. At the end of the day the 15 yard penalty wouldn't have mattered as the Eagles were not going to win without Wentz.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Cowboys hire Mike McCarthy. As someone who doesn't think McCarthy is a particularly great gameday coach, I approve of this hire.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Cowboys hire Mike McCarthy. As someone who doesn't think McCarthy is a particularly great gameday coach, I approve of this hire.

He did win a Super Bowl and a .618 career winning record over 13 years is nothing to sneeze at regardless of the QB's he had to work with. I do think that this current Cowboys roster has more overall talent than what he had to work with in Green Bay over his last years. I don't know if it's a great hire but Jerry could have done a lot worse.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He did win a Super Bowl and a .618 career winning record over 13 years is nothing to sneeze at regardless of the QB's he had to work with. I do think that this current Cowboys roster has more overall talent than what he had to work with in Green Bay over his last years. I don't know if it's a great hire but Jerry could have done a lot worse.

I watched a lot of Packers games during the McCarthy era and I often thought they won in spite of him, not because of him. The last couple of years especially, I thought his offense looked pretty stale and he looked completely out of his element in terms of play-calling, challenges, clock management, aggressiveness, etc.

[rubecube]

That said, he may have turned over a new leaf.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020...ext-head-coach

While there is understandably concern over McCarthy given that he was fired by the Packers in 2018, he took the 2019 season off and worked on his craft in a different way. He has embraced the usage of analytics which is something that people are anxious to see.

Dallas' underlying numbers had them pegged as a 10 or 11 win team this year. They have a pretty interesting offseason coming up. They have quite a bit of cap space, but they need to re-sign Dak, Cooper, and Byron Jones, which will swallow up most of it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

We all watched a lot of Packer games, when you're a national TV team who is successful you see them a lot. And yeah I'd agree with Rube's assessment, McCarthy might be a good coach at getting his teams prepared, but his in game management often left me thinking he was hurting his team more than helping. Garrett likewise was a terrible in game coach, but he still had a .559 winning percentage. McCarthy also arguably had the greatest stretch of QB play ever, and didn't accomplish enough with it.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Again, not when it comes to runners running downfield. You have to realize that different situations have different rules in the NFL.

The issue again with the NFL is the lack of consistency. Clowney should have been called regardless because he led with his helmet, but even regardless of that, take a look at this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1214007713761517568

https://twitter.com/user/status/1214009053376110592

So which is it? Is he a runner, or has he given himself up?

[Sylvanfan]

From what I saw of the Clowney hit, he dives at Wentz as he's going down, and is trying to punch the ball out. So if a play like that does result in a helmet to helmet hit, I think it should be penalized. Wentz was already going down, and Clowney isn't form tackling him to finish the play, he's diving at the guy to try and jar the ball loose.

But even if it's a 15 yard penalty, I don't think it really impacts the game much. Reminds of of 2 years back when Travis Kelce was absolutly killing the Titans in the first half. They target him with an intentional headshot on a first and goal to take him out of the game. Cost them 3 yards, and they got the guy that they couldn't defend out of the game. I guarantee that if teams faced something like 10 plays with one less defender on the field...there would be a lot less of these types of hits.