[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[krazycanuck]

Originally Posted by krazycanuck

Commodore on TSN1260 in Edmonton just now:

-Retold the Babcock story in Anaheim and Detroit
-95% of the coaches he had he liked, Darryl Sutter included despite him being hard on him, he never crossed the line
-Says Babcock was a dick to everyone from front office to parking attendants
-He says 100% of players hes talked to appreciated what he said about Babcock
-He was encouraged to stay on top the Babcock hate by other peoples stories about Babcock
-Feels validated by all of the other stories coming out (ie Marner)
-The Babcock coaching tree (Peters) takes on many of the same qualities that Babcock does. Says that makes him sick to his stomach
-Says up until last week being under Babcock as an assistant was a good thing, now it's now
-Says Babcock thing is different than Peters thing, doesnt want to blame Babcock for what Peters did as much as he'd like to
-He says hes now the biggest leafs fans in the world after the move
-Says he can sense the cloud lifting over the leafs since babcock left in player interviews
-Thinks if more stories come out he might never get hired again, but thinks another owner or GM might hire him again based on his record
-Says babcock will try to hide his colors in the job interview but revert to old Babs
-Commie calls Peters quote disgusting, he doesnt know Aliu and doesnt recall ever playing with him
-in his opinion Peters is done and will get fired
-only reason he hasnt been fired is Flames are trying to be thorough to terminate the contract
-Says slim to none chance that Peters will ever coach again in NA. Would be shocked if he's on the bench tomorrow against Buffalo.

I was hoping he'd get more into his time with him as an assistant coach in Detroit.

If you want to hear the interview: https://the-jason-gregor-show-websit...odoreNov26.mp3

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

Even more reason for Tre and the Flames to get it right... Drag it out another 16 hours if it means the organization can actually put this behind them.

They could be negotiating a settlement too. Pay him part what he's owed in exchange for no legal action. It's probably pretty tricky triggering an ethical clause for something that happened years before his employment here. I don't see any hurry to do it. He's effectively suspended as long as they are keeping him away from the team.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by krazycanuck

Commodore on TSN1260 in Edmonton just now...

I was hoping he'd get more into his time with him as an assistant coach in Detroit.

I mentioned it earlier, but Commodore does not have a lot of experience with Bill Peters from his Detroit days. He only played there 17 games spread over three months while Peters was in his first year NHL coaching gig as an assistant.

[Bigfeet24]

The response is what you'd expect whilst an investigation is on going. Things need to be done properly from a legal and HR perspective. I'd imagine just like players it would fall under gross misconduct provided that the everything was confirmed.

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Bigfeet24

The response is what you'd expect whilst an investigation is on going. Things need to be done properly from a legal and HR perspective. I'd imagine just like players it would fall under gross misconduct provided that the everything was confirmed.

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Exactly. They need to make sure they cover their asses. It seems like a straight forward thing - he should not be working for the Flames given what we know about his past. But the Flames need to make sure that he can't turn around and sue them.

I would bet they come to a financial agreement and Peters technically "resigns". They are probably negotiating, through lawyers, the terms of his resignation.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Cuz

I think when Bennett comes back, he will play better too and maybe get more than a period on the second line.

May be the purple Gatorade will come back?

[Bigfeet24]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Exactly. They need to make sure they cover their asses. It seems like a straight forward thing - he should not be working for the Flames given what we know about his past. But the Flames need to make sure that he can't turn around and sue them.



I would bet they come to a financial agreement and Peters technically "resigns".

I agree, particularly with your last bit. Unfortunately verbal abuse, bullying and racism are notoriously hard to prosecute unless you have recorded audio or video evidence. Tre is required to be vague in order to give all parties the highest opportunity of their claims being proven by law... Otherwise it can result in trial by media and subsequent defimation of character counter claims ... Etc

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[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I mentioned it earlier, but Commodore does not have a lot of experience with Bill Peters from his Detroit days. He only played there 17 games spread over three months while Peters was in his first year NHL coaching gig as an assistant.

First hand and more than anyone here

[ThisIsAnOutrage]

This sure is an ugly one. Food for thought, if the investigation concludes that Peters said what Aliu says he did, does/should Peters get a chance to work things out with Aliu, man to man, before discipline is handed out? If Aliu was at all interested in doing so?

Seems to me the Flames are left holding the bag for Peters' past behaviour as his current employer, when the issue - at this point anyway - is an interpersonal one between he and Aliu.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Bill Peters is seriously getting exposed

We've got:

-Allegations and corroboration of racism that negatively affected a player's career

-Allegations of him kicking a player during a game

Just need the classic rape allegations and the trifecta will be complete.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

First hand and more than anyone here

Yes.... the post you quoted was responding to a specifically snipped sentence where the poster was hoping to hear more about Peters from Commodore.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would bet they come to a financial agreement and Peters technically "resigns". They are probably negotiating, through lawyers, the terms of his resignation.

Coaches get fired all the time. It's simple as they continue to get paid. And they could just go that route if they wanted - no need to negotiate in this case. As suggested, by someone, it's more likely they want to terminate his contract using the ethical clause. To avoid paying him and make an ultra strong statement. I would also bet, this is tricky as his unethical behaviour occurred long before signing the contract with the Flames and not during his tenure with the Flames.

[Ashasx]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199470573358845959

[Azure]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Mark Armstrong
@ArmstrongABC11
Per a Hurricanes source -- the player leadership group at the time and other staff members made Ron Francis aware of their concerns about Bill Peters conduct. Obviously - no change was made.

Sara Civ @SaraCivian
Can confirm and will add close relationships spanning decades were ruined because of Francis' decision not to fire Peters. Obviously more to come later.

See, this is what gets me. There is a long history here of coverups and pushing things under the rug, but the GM of the Flames is going to be held responsible for all of this.

Heads need to roll. If Francis knew about it he needs to be gone as well.

[landshark]

Listening to Commie for the first time - what's not to like about this guy?

'Sure, I was a bit of a pylon' - HAHAHA!

He sounds very sincere and honest in this interview.

Originally Posted by krazycanuck

If you want to hear the interview: https://the-jason-gregor-show-websit...odoreNov26.mp3

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199470573358845959

I'm not sure what to think about this.

[Bigfeet24]

I reckon he is suspended indefinitely pending investigation ... Temp coach brought in until the end of the season.

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[landshark]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199470573358845959

Yeah, I'm sure this if this guy talked to the PA, all hell would break loose within 24 hours. Sure...

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I'm not sure what to think about this.

I'm wondering how long they have been saying that.

Because if it has been like that for many years, wow. Means the NHLPA is actively covering up abuse.

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199470573358845959

I might be missing something, but what is controversial about a union directing their members to lodge complaints with the union? They are part of a collective bargaining agreement and I am confident that they negotiated processes when it comes to harassment and abuse for members.

Players would also have access to legal counsel to see if public allegations might come back on them in unforeseen ways. There may be ways to lodge a complaint that would not expose them to the chaos that a twitter bomb would lead to.

It is also a matter of concern for the relationship with the league. If players are throwing teams into this insanity with regularity it may lead to a damaged relationship that the NHLPA may not benefit from.

I don't understand why people assume that a directive to players to bring things to the PA first means they want to cover things up.