TSN: 2 teammates independently corroborate Akim Aliu's allegations against Peters

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^What legal jeopardy? That continues to get tossed out with no basis.

I have to believe at this point that the only reason peters hasn't already been fired is the legal ramifications around his dismissal.

[calumniate]

Sad when Dion Phaneuf can be called a hero turning music up in the locker room, and Akim has his career derailed because of something similar

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I have to believe at this point that the only reason peters hasn't already been fired is the legal ramifications around his dismissal.

right. I don't look at that as legal jeopardy - but rather the legal considerations of HOW he is let go.
Very different.

[burn_this_city]

The only thing up for discussion is whether or not he is compensated for the remainder of his contract.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Sad when Dion Phaneuf can be called a hero turning music up in the locker room, and Akim has his career derailed because of something similar

Where's the evidence that impacted his career?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

right. I don't look at that as legal jeopardy - but rather the legal considerations of HOW he is let go.
Very different.

Right but that has potential legal ramifications for the owners between them and Peters. Now that I see the clarification I understand what he meant.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by stone hands

-the fbi

Doesn't he post here?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Doesn't he post here?

You're on a roll.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Where's the evidence that impacted his career?

We would need more details, but if it's true that this incident subsequently led to Aliu rebelling against Peters and Peters subsequently working to have him demoted to the ECHL over it, I think an argument can be made.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Based on the hires of gulutzan and then Peter's, do you have faith treliving's third time up to bat is going to be a home run? I sure don't.

Well I sort of agree with you and I sort of don't.

On one hand he clearly likes a certain style of play, and knows how to find coaches who can deliver that style. He knows the game well enough to get the right coach to fit the team he's building.

However, he clearly is a poor evaluator of character, or simply doesn't know how to do it as part of a hiring/signing process. Multiple player signings and coaching hires have been disastrous because they lacked quality characteristics that a winning organization needs.

It's been consistently disappointing.

I think he's a keen logical tactician, but he doesn't know people very well. Perhaps that's where Conroy has a major role in the organization, but if so, he's not doing his job either. Perhaps Connie is just too nice to see the flaws in others.

I remember Conroy hiking with Gulutzan as the key in the hiring process, but Treliving wasn't there. Maybe Conroy is a big reason why some of these big disasters keep happening? We all love him, but maybe he's not very good at this?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

There's no way he would hire him knowing any of this.

However, the fact that he didn't do a thorough enough vetting of Peters through previous player interactions is very telling.

There could be a fatal flaw in Treliving's decision making process exposed here. Some of this (very little) should blow back on him for not looking into Peters' background more.

I am sceptical that at the time of the Peters hire Treliving would have managed to get the kind of transparency from players—most of whom he didn't know—that you are imagining. Up until only very recently no one was disclosing this sort of behaviour except for Mike Commodore.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Where's the evidence that impacted his career?

In his tweet. Got sent to the ECHL despite performing well (according to him). Did it make his NHL career different? Who knows. The Windsor hazing business didn't help him either. But he was a kid with skill and a lot of points in junior who never broke through. I'm sure this, as well as a bunch of other stuff he went through, affected him on ice.

[calumniate]

Nm

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Where's the evidence that impacted his career?

https://www.tsn.ca/akim-aliu-speaks-...ters-1.1403974

Near the bottom half

[Flash Walken]

The worsrle the pile on around Peters gets, the higher the likelihood his pro career is done.

The likelier it is that his pro career is done, the more incentive he has to make this as difficult and expensive for the flames organization as possible.

Treliving has created a huge headache for his organization. There must be 100 coaches in North America qualified enough to coach a hockey team, and treliving hand picks this one.

Boy, if I hired someone who created this much negative press for my organization, and it was basically my personal endorsement that sold the hire, I'd be actively looking at employment elsewhere.

Jiri, imagine you hire someone at the radio station who is later accused some pretty awful workplace harrasment, and it was your endorsement of this individual that got this person hired in the first place.

Do you think there'd be heat on you?

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

The only thing up for discussion is whether or not he is compensated for the remainder of his contract.

I guess it comes down to if this brought bad rapport to the organization's reputation. Though it's hard to justify that because it happened 10 years ago. This combined with his bad coaching this year and last years' playoffs, I do think there's justification for giving him the boot. Not my money, but to me it's a bit of a stretch to say it caused reputation damage when it happened when he wasn't with the organization. I do think he deserves to be let go with pay, but what do I know.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In his tweet. Got sent to the ECHL despite performing well (according to him). Did it make his NHL career different? Who knows. The Windsor hazing business didn't help him either. But he was a kid with skill and a lot of points in junior who never broke through. I'm sure this, as well as a bunch of other stuff he went through, affected him on ice.

That's his 11 year later comment, of his perspective and not necessarily what officially actually happened. Not saying it didn't happen, but as of now there's no technical evidence out there yet to confirm this beyond Aliu's word. We need to wait for more details.

[Flash Walken]

I would pay peters double what he's owed if he signs an NDA and agrees not to publicly talk about the allegations.

It would be cheaper than a crisis response pr team.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The other thread is getting Lanny'd.

There's no hope.

What the actual Eff? You leave DaMan out of this

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by calumniate

https://www.tsn.ca/akim-aliu-speaks-...ters-1.1403974

Near the bottom half

That's not really evidence. That's one side's perspective of a situation.