TSN: 2 teammates independently corroborate Akim Aliu's allegations against Peters

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by DJones

Because I'm not willing to condemn a man career for a comment that isn't even directed at someone?

Alright then, sure.

The second line is significantly more offensive.

What don't you get that the N word is not to be used in a professional work environment?

[Rando]

Originally Posted by DJones

Because I'm not willing to condemn a man career for a comment that isn't even directed at someone?

Alright then, sure.

The second line is significantly more offensive.

It doesn't have to be directed at anyone, and it kind of passively was anyway.

Not going to act like Flash Walken did, I think his response was childish, but you seem pretty misguided on all of this.

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by DJones

Because I'm not willing to condemn a man career for a comment that isn't even directed at someone?

Alright then, sure.

The second line is significantly more offensive.

you
cannot
say
those
things

what part of this do you not understand. casual racism isn't okay

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

a. So just like a lot of us thought it went down. In fact a combination of them.
b. Good on Dowling.
c. Peters was a 45 year old guy at the time I think. Not a kid. And it wasn't even provoked by a loss of temper - he walks in, drops the bomb, walks out. Doesn't apologize after for a loss of control, doesn't offer any ignorance defence.

He's done.

Exactly ... this wasn't done in college. Very little excuse if it was, but he was a grown man ten or 11 years ago.

I saw no reason Aliu would make this up, looks like it's been corroborated.

He resigns today.

[Fire]

I can't see him ever coaching for the Flames again.

Hire Darryl Sutter for one year. Win Cup. Find new coach in off-season.

[Coach]

Yikes.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

TSN has been able to independently corroborate Aliu's story with two of his teammates

https://www.tsn.ca/akim-aliu-speaks-...ters-1.1403974

Those accounts leave little room for misunderstanding or fading memories. They are clear and cogent. In the absence of other witnesses who were in the dressing room that day coming forward and essentially alleging that Aliu, Pepin and MacArthur are conspiring to lie, I can't see how Bill Peters continues to coach the Calgary Flames. It may still take the Flames a little time to conclude the investigation (though I would be surprised if it tool longer than another 24 hours), but I think the writing is just about on the wall at this point. Stunning how quickly it has all happened.

[Tyler]

Yeah, no way Peter's escapes this. Siyonara

[TheIronMaiden]

I would like to believe that in ten years a person can change. That said there is no way to prove something like that even if it were the case.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by DJones

Because I'm not willing to condemn a man career for a comment that isn't even directed at someone?

Alright then, sure.

The second line is significantly more offensive.

The first line is what's going to get him fired. If it was only the second line he could argue that he was quoting the song, even trying to stop the playing of music with the word because it was inappropriate.

[Flash Walken]

I don't think the Flames give him a chance to resign.

If Hanlon knows what he's doing, the Flames need to be seen to treat this as zero tolerance.

You fire an employee like that, you don't let them leave on their own accord.

[Robo]

Why on earth would he think it was ok to say that

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Fire

I can't see him ever coaching for the Flames again.

He's probably done. It took John Vanbiesbrouck 15 years to get back in the game.

[Saint Troy]

He’s done, he doesn’t get to stain a proud organization with his past behavior if true.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

The first line is what's going to get him fired. If it was only the second line he could argue that he was quoting the song, even trying to stop the playing of music with the word because it was inappropriate. The first line is bad.

What song could he possibly be quoting there haha? That's just brutal

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Exactly ... this wasn't done in college. Very little excuse if it was, but he was a grown man ten or 11 years ago.

I saw no reason Aliu would make this up, looks like it's been corroborated.

He resigns today.

The key circumstance, in my opinion, is the position of trust and authority that Peters was in at the time. That position demanded a far higher standard than children on a playground (or whatever other hypothetical situations have been raised so far in this thread).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rando

It doesn't have to be directed at anyone, and it kind of passively was anyway.

Yeah, even if that phrase is somehow in your vocabulary, a black guy is playing the music and you still let loose? It was not even passive IMO. It was directed at Aliu.

I think he did it because he thought he could get away with it as coach, and he did, for years.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by DJones

Because I'm not willing to condemn a man career for a comment that isn't even directed at someone?

Alright then, sure.

The second line is significantly more offensive.

Yeah, I can't believe anyone would have issue with the first line. As you said it's totally fine a white man yelling the N word at a black man who's under his authority. If we keep catering into the PC crowd, soon we won't be able to wear our Ku Klux Klan robes to work on casual Friday.

[GullFoss]

Some needs to start a "we want Sutter" chant at the next game

[Flamesguy_SJ]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199381055834185728

Eric Francis
@EricFrancis
After touching base with various stakeholders in this ugly situation, I can no longer see any scenario in which Bill Peters remains coach of the Flames.