TSN: 2 teammates independently corroborate Akim Aliu's allegations against Peters

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I just hope this #### doesn't cost the Flames a draft pick or something

It won’t, but if it did cost anyone anything punitive, it should be the Blackhawks that receive the punishment.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Split98

Do you like finding hostility out of nowhere?

Most of what is being said in this entire thread amount to

"He's guilty"
"Let's wait and see"
"What context could we ever accept an apology?"
"There's a bunch, here's one wild one what came up earlier"

*out of nowhere* "You people and your mental gymnastics on a discussion forum!"

--

So it's clear you were super early on the "Peters is bad train" - to anyone taking notes, please take note.

But if you read everything people like me posted... you might get an impression of where I'm leaning. I just decided to offer a bit of reason for pause instead of bull-horning 12+ hours (or, as you put it... "immediately") later

This. I would add that the reason people are talking about context because Akim's tweet was unclear on that point - he could easily have said "Peters called me the Nword" of that was the case, but he didn't. He said "dropped the N bomb towards me". Which could be the same, but could be different.

Pretty much everyone has said, no matter the context, it's bad. But how bad depends on context. I have said, there's no good answer, just levels of badness.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

The NHL took a pick away from the New Jersey Devils for the Kovalchuk contract. Although, that was obviously for cap circumvention and not off-ice conduct.

Yeah. AS PER THE CBA.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah. AS PER THE CBA.

And the decision was reversed and they got half the fine back and the pick.

[calgarygeologist]

Depending on what happens today and what new revelations might come out I expect that Peters won't be on the bench tomorrow in Buffalo. At the very least he should be suspended pending investigation.

[burn_this_city]

I'm of the opinion even if there aren't more accusations of racism, but more players come out and say he was an abusive gaslighter ect, they should let him go. How does the NHL believably contribute to anti-bullying campaigns if the league employs a bunch of sociopaths masquerading as coaches and GMs.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Ownership did want Sutter but went with Treliving's guy. I wonder how hard it would be to get him out of Anaheim if thats the move?

He's just an advisor to them I thought, but given his tenure I'm sure they'd be amiable in allowing him to another organization to enter a full time head coaching role.

And he definitely would have been interested in coming back here.

https://www.nhl.com/news/darryl-sutt...ch/c-299135284

Asked if he would consider the coaching opening with the Washington Capitals that became available when Barry Trotz resigned Monday, Sutter said, "No way. I'd be too far away from the grandkids."
[...]
Sutter, who was fired by the Kings on April 10, 2017, told Sportsnet he would have considered coaching the Flames, who had an opening before they hired Bill Peters on April 23 to replace Glen Gulutzan. Sutter has a farm in his native Viking, Alberta.

"I would have listened for sure," Sutter said. "Brad [Treliving, Flames general manager] made a great choice in Bill."

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

The NHL took a pick away from the New Jersey Devils for the Kovalchuk contract. Although, that was obviously for cap circumvention and not off-ice conduct.

If it turns out that the Flames knew about this or there were future incidents that occurred while Peters was with the Flames, I believe the Flames would at least get a hefty fine. Especially if this becomes a media ####storm.

Yeah the Flames, KNEW that Peters dropped N bombs towards one of their own former players.

Lol.

Business Acumen 101.

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

The NHL took a pick away from the New Jersey Devils for the Kovalchuk contract. Although, that was obviously for cap circumvention and not off-ice conduct.

If it turns out that the Flames knew about this or there were future incidents that occurred while Peters was with the Flames, I believe the Flames would at least get a hefty fine. Especially if this becomes a media ####storm.

What the f are you talking about "If the flames knew about this"

Yeah im sure it was part of the interview to ask if he calls people the n word

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah. AS PER THE CBA.

Does the CBA govern how the league disciplines organizations? I don’t think it does in other sports.

Not that it really applies here and certainly not to the Flames. Unless they try to cover it up or something which I’m not concerned about.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by DJones

Calgary

Funny. So did I. Never heard what you heard.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

The NHL took a pick away from the New Jersey Devils for the Kovalchuk contract. Although, that was obviously for cap circumvention and not off-ice conduct.

If it turns out that the Flames knew about this or there were future incidents that occurred while Peters was with the Flames, I believe the Flames would at least get a hefty fine. Especially if this becomes a media ####storm.

[sa226]

Id be interested in Sutter, just to see how a Darryl Sutter team plays in 2019/20.

The game has changed quite a bit, even since his LA days. He showed he could adapt to the "new" NHL then, I wonder if he can do it now. Especially with a smallish team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He was a player in the room with Rockford at the time, I think.

Never mind - he wasn't there at the same time. Missed by a year. He played 2 games with Akim in 2008. This happened in 09-10 if I read Aliu's stats right (that's when he spent time in the ECHL).

Guys that would know are Bickell, Klinkhammer, Crawford, Cullimore, etc.

You might get something out of one of them who is out of the league, like Bickell or Klinkhammer.

[DylanScores]

So if Peters faces any repercussions, should there also be any repercussions for Stan Bowman et al if the allegations are proven to be true?

[stang]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wes Gilbertson
@WesGilbertson
Sean McMorrow played for Peters in 2008-09 season in Rockford ...

Sean McMorrow @sheriffmcmorrow
If you think Mike Commodore had harsh words for Babcock you are in for a treat to hear what I would have to say about Bill Peters ... Worst human being to ever coach me ... treated me terrible on a AHL team (IceHogs) where I won a League Award for Community Service. #badguy

Yikes.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Stauner

What the f are you talking about "If the flames knew about this"

Yeah im sure it was part of the interview to ask if he calls people the n word

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by sempuki

Funny. So did I. Never heard what you heard.

Wait. You weren't in the same class with that poster? What are the odds? I thought we all had identical shared experiences?

[N-E-B]

Bill Peters, and only Bill Peters will face the consequences. The Flames will not and should not be punished for employing someone who may or may not have said horrible things in private 9-10 years ago. That is an absurd thought process.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Bill Peters, and only Bill Peters will face the consequences. The Flames will not and should not be punished for employing someone who may or may not have said horrible things in private 9-10 years ago. That is an absurd thought process.

That said, the only way for the Flames to get out from under this is to fire Peters and move on. Either that or the apology of the century, but the risk of this following the team around is too great imo.