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Old 10-21-2019, 11:33 PM   #681
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Scheer doesn’t seem like a guy planning on resigning.
i'm pretty sure he is prepping for his insurance broker exam.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:33 PM   #682
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Scheer doesn’t seem like a guy planning on resigning.
It's mostly because he's not very bright. His speech is terrible. Religion.... Bootstraps....Values...

This is exactly what the conservative party should be avoiding. Drop the archaic views on social issues and the idiotic obsession with corporate welfare and you can easily win.
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Only in a post election thread would you see people claiming 34% of the vote is "winning the majority."

It was said earlier in the thread: Conservative policies appeal to 1/3 of Canadians. 2/3 of Canadians want something else. If conservatives want to win, they need to change their policies.
I get your point, but your math is extremely misleading. What we really have is about 1/3 on the right, 1/3 in the centre, and 1/3 on the left.

The problem for the conservatives is that they are currently being run by social conservatives who are very far right which alienates a lot of people who are centre-right.

But saying 2/3 of Canadians want something else is very misleading. Two thirds of Canadians don't want the Liberals either.
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I keep hearing...Jai guru deva om/nothing's gonna change my world... when I listen to these guys. Could also be the pain meds.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:34 PM   #685
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Honestly, why give the moron the time of day?
Why do we laugh at the Oilers?
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:35 PM   #686
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The greens are irrelevant. Why are we seeing her speech?
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Scheer doesn’t seem like a guy planning on resigning.
He needs to. Don’t make the same mistake democrats did where they banged their head over and over wondering why no one embraced Hilary. I didn’t think the cons would win after talking to people in my circle over the weekend who weren’t voting for him despite being in O&G. Let’s nominate Rona unless she also has anti gay marriage from 2005. Would love to see the male feminist and his team create an attack campaign against a woman.
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Sheer dropped the 'founded on Conservative values' line. Even assuming that only means the really good 'conservative' values, that in and of itself is not going to garner support.
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Is it based on population or number of electors. From the number of electors things are much more equal (at least per 2015 Wikipedia)
I based it on population, taking the lastest stats can estimates from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population


Numbers skew a bit more to Ont and BC than from the 2015 census numbers, but the jist is the same, distrbution of about 15 seats, from Sask/Man and the Atlantic provinces, with Ontario being the main recepient, followed by AB and BC.
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I get your point, but your math is extremely misleading. What we really have is about 1/3 on the right, 1/3 in the centre, and 1/3 on the left.

The problem for the conservatives is that they are currently being run by social conservatives who are very far right which alienates a lot of people who are centre-right.

But saying 2/3 of Canadians want something else is very misleading. Two thirds of Canadians don't want the Liberals either.
A big part of the issue is our Conservatives have been looking south to the GOP for some time hoping what works down there will translate to up here and it just wont
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Let’s nominate Rona unless she also has anti gay marriage from 2005.
I know you want to play the victim, but no one would have cared if Scheer was anti-gay in 2005 as long as he was clear that he had grown and have come to see the LGBT+ as equals and apologized for his discriminatory views and votes.

Except he went the other way and said numerous times that his position and views never changed.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:44 PM   #692
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I wonder if Jason Kenney is pistol whipping Sam Lilly somewhere on Whyte Ave. "You sonofabitch, you couldn't win your riding, it's beatsville for you"
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150k vote difference between Green and the Bloc - 29 seat difference.
I won't get into the FPTP debate, but it is hard to not really seriously question how unjust this electrical system is.
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150k vote difference between Green and the Bloc - 29 seat difference.
I won't get into the FPTP debate, but it is hard to not really seriously question how unjust this electrical system is.
It's shocking.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:47 PM   #696
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150k vote difference between Green and the Bloc - 29 seat difference.
I won't get into the FPTP debate, but it is hard to not really seriously question how unjust this electrical system is.
Power to the people.
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A big part of the issue is our Conservatives have been looking south to the GOP for some time hoping what works down there will translate to up here and it just wont
Well it has to some degree. The Republican strategy is to develop a solid base and then try to get more of their voters to the polls (and suppress Democrat voters). The CPC are clearly running the same playbook to some degree but it doesn't work due to where their base is concentrated.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:49 PM   #698
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A province also can't lose seats...
Did a little calculation, and if you still give a seat to each of the three territories, that leaves 335 seats, or one for about every 112,000 people or so. If you could divide all the seats out strictly by population, the biggest winner would be:
Ontario, with 9 more.

Also gaining seats would be:
Alberta (5)
BC (3)


Losing seats would be:
Sask (4)
PEI, NB (3 each)
NS,Man,Quebec (2 each)
Newfoundland (1)
A province can lose seats but no more than 15% at a time.
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I know you want to play the victim, but no one would have cared if Scheer was anti-gay in 2005 as long as he was clear that he had grown and have come to see the LGBT+ as equals and apologized for his discriminatory views and votes.

Except he went the other way and said numerous times that his position and views never changed.
Yeah, I’m not playing the victim. It was a problem.
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