GT: Canadian Federal Election 2019

[AnonymousStranger]

Here's a question. Would the Americans risk jeopardizing their relationship with Canada if a separatist party came into power in Alberta and starting appealing for American statehood? I mean it's not like Canada can do anything about it.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I still really like Lisa Raitt. Really classy comments in defeat.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1186489025823203328

[burn_this_city]

She should have been next Conservative leader.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Liberals with one seat in the provinces west of Ontario. I'm glad there's one guy in the CBC panel who brought up electoral reform.

Funny that the CBC panel only seem really concerned about Liberal rep in Alberta yet they are in essentially an equally bad position in BC and all of Western Canada. This minority will be a make or break for Western relations and the future of the Liberal party out here.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

A few folks in here talking about how on earth they could want Trudeau, the conservative platform doesn’t align with 60% to 65% of the country. Liberals, NDP, Greens, Bloc...all Left or Centre Left.



Andrew Coyne put it pretty well I think, if the conservatives don’t start looking past its base, it will have a hard time winning. Alberta is a shoe-in, Sask is a shoe in, but to win you need to start appealing to more than just the base. There’s a bubble in Alberta, outside of it nobody really cares about the oil patch.



People care about climate change, LGTBQ rights, abortion rights, fair taxes for the middle class, less tax breaks for big business, yet the conservative platform cling to those ideas. That’s not going to fly with the left/Centre left, so you won’t get those votes.

If the conservatives came out with a platform that did something about climate change, unequivocally supported LGBTQ and practiced responsible spending AND taxation (because they are a necessary evil) they would win. But they don’t.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I still really like Lisa Raitt. Really classy comments in defeat.

She must be seething inside. I wonder if she is angrier at Scheer or Ford?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I still really like Lisa Raitt. Really classy comments in defeat.

Yup she's a big loss and a huge centrist piece of the party. Hopefully she finds a way back.

[flamingred89]

Originally Posted by Cuz

Why did CTV put these morons on?

And then for the host to continually cut them off and talk over them. Awkward

[Parallex]

I'll say this for her Lisa Riatt loses with class.

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by kermitology

If the conservatives came out with a platform that did something about climate change, unequivocally supported LGBTQ and practiced responsible spending AND taxation (because they are a necessary evil) they would win. But they don’t.

100% Yes.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by AnonymousStranger

Here's a question. Would the Americans risk jeopardizing their relationship with Canada if a separatist party came into power in Alberta and starting appealing for American statehood? I mean it's not like Canada can do anything about it.

Sure because at that point there wouldn't be a canda anymore. There'd be the country of Ontario.

[robbie111]

Conservatives are winning the popular vote across Canada right now but lost the election just like the Dems who won the popular vote lost to the Republicans.

Looks like our system works as well as the American system.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Funny that the CBC panel only seem really concerned about Liberal rep in Alberta yet they are in essentially an equally bad position in BC and all of Western Canada. This minority will be a make or break for Western relations and the future of the Liberal party out here.

I thought the same, actually felt a bit pandering and leading. If you couldn't see it, you'd think it was just AB/Sask. The entire west is a pretty big deal beyond Albertans being afraid to identify as liberals

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by zamler

I'd say it's being honest. For example I'm not religious in fact I think religion is quite silly but I don't look down on people that are, I respect why they believe what they believe. I would never bully them into believing science as I do for example.

But be honest, if you say you are pro life or for traditional marriage the mob will come for you.

The issue is that politicians run, both explicitly and tacitly, on these issues, and court such voters because they say they will do things about them, to “protect family values”. Scheer said what he believed, that’s fine. But he failed to shut down any discussion of legislation about social issues. That contradicts your views, I think.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I’ve just never understood why we can’t take responsibility for what we do, instead of throwing up our hands and saying “but China...”. China is, BTW, also huge and cold.

We largely (North America) created the industry in China and by extension pollution. That doesn't absolve them from responsibility of course but at the price points we want to buy our crap industry in China can't be clean. I can buy a box full of electronic components for $20 same thing made here would be $200 or more. I know this because at one time the stuff was made here and it was expensive.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I’ve just never understood why we can’t take responsibility for what we do, instead of throwing up our hands and saying “but China...”. China is, BTW, also huge and cold.

well great, we will kill our economy and have zero effect...but can be smug and knowing we did our part

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by zamler

We largely (North America) created the industry in China and by extension pollution. That doesn't absolve them from responsibility of course but at the price points we want to buy our crap industry in China can't be clean. I can buy a box full of electronic components for $20 same thing made here would be $200 or more. I know this because at one time the stuff was made here and it was expensive.

True.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yeah, conservatives are going to have to shed their image that people have of them regarding LGBTQ issues. It's almost 2020... time to accept people however they identify themselves as.

That said, I think we can all agree that religion, and religious institutions, have no place in government and need to be weeded out and left behind as quick as possible. Separate church and state.

Agreed. We have a large population, it shouldn’t be *that* difficult to find 338 adults who are socially progressive that don’t have a ugly Twitter history.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The issue is that politicians run, both explicitly and tacitly, on these issues, and court such voters because they say they will do things about them, to “protect family values”. Scheer said what he believed, that’s fine. But he failed to shut down any discussion of legislation about social issues. That contradicts your views, I think.

I feel what you're missing is there is nothing Scheer could have said to quell the criticism, the attack point is being used for the sake of it.