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Old 10-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #301
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Are you secretly Rick Bell?
So you're saying a media outlet that gets a billion dollars from a certain party is going to be completely impartial. No wonder the Libs can keep winning elections they must have a legion of voters with this mindset.
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You realize people who work there also don’t think it will be built right?
Same with Northern Gateway and Enbridge...in 2012.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:58 PM   #304
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Thanks to Nenshi for getting some good shots in for Alberta.
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Which Max Bernier won?
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Why’s TMX dead the far left looneys can’t take down the government over it.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:59 PM   #307
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Complete wipeout of the liberals in Alberta. Going to be interesting over the next couple years
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:59 PM   #308
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Plenty of time to debate this, but as I said above about the type of guy the CPC needed, and think about it more, he would've easily done better tonight than Scheer. The offensive on Trudeau would've been much more cutting, to the "shock" of the press but to the delight of many others, not just Conservatives, who want to see a proper attack on an egotistical and hypocritical PM.

He would've had to defend his gay rights comments and actions prior, sure, but this election goes to show how previous misdoings (blackface) don't seem to hold as water as people or media dramatically think so or vote on in the end.
Not saying they would've won, but if Kenney or someone from the CPC came out guns blazing at Trudeau, there would be a lot more doubt in some of the fence sitters minds not just about Trudeau, but also positive about the guy who would be launching the offensive.
There’s a difference between bad deeds in the past by a guy who is probably not going to trample minority rights and bad deeds in the past by a guy voters worry would do just that.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:59 PM   #309
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I know this is a left wing country but I am shocked the people voted LPC after SNC and Blackface.

I just don’t get it. I really don’t.
SNC is typical government shenanigans I wasn't willing to vote a conservative into power over. Like, seriously. I'm going to vote for a guy who will make it his mission to bust unions because the other guy put pressure on the government lawyer to ease off a Canadian company to protect Canadian jobs? Not happening.

As far as blackface... not single friend of mine of colour thought it was an issue. To a person their response was almost always a version of: "he apologized and meant it, who cares". I'm not going to be a fake "woke" white person deciding to take offense on someone elses behalf who doesn't care about an issue.

The fact is Trudeas done a mostly fine job as PM and these scandals cost him a majority government. Seems like democracy is fine to me.
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Just looking at some of the Ontario results, the Cons got hammered in the 905 area. I really thought some of those races would be closer.
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The problem is really "us" though. "We" could have voted in the CPC leadership election instead we let it get taken over by religious zealots who propped up a bigot to the leadership.
I was thinking this as well. Unfortunately, I don't have the interest, time or whatever else to get that involved in politics. So I guess I get what I deserve. Maybe "we" need to become less apathetic going forward to try counter the old bible thumpers.
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Which Max Bernier won?
Neither.
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I know this is a left wing country but I am shocked the people voted LPC after SNC and Blackface.

I just don’t get it. I really don’t.
1. Judging by previous posts it seems you struggle looking outside your own purview; that could be a reason
2. That's how bad Andrew Scheer was as a candidate. The Cons needs to lance the podunks from the party.
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Libs are inching to 160 this is a catastrophe for the Cons.
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The NDP won’t. The Bloq will if there’s something in it for them. But why Scheer? I don’t think he’s very interested in it at all.

I thought Trudeau was even less so.
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Scheer must be pretty terrible if that many people still want that corrupt idiot running our country into the ground.
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I was thinking this as well. Unfortunately, I don't have the interest, time or whatever else to get that involved in politics. So I guess I get what I deserve. Maybe "we" need to become less apathetic going forward to try counter the old bible thumpers.
The last time I voted in a convention was to try and ensure that Ted Morton didn’t get in (though I didn’t vote for the winner).
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At least the Liberals can’t use their committee majorities to shutdown investigations any longer, that’s a positive.
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