[PGT] Knights 6 Flames 2

[Dajazz]

Close game, Rittich made a (or two) booboo. Coulda/Shoulda/Woulda. Play this game 10 times and it's 5-5. I'm a little worried about Peters though, we have Lindholm available to slot down and run three strong centers - it would completely change the Knight's matchups.

I still want to rocket Milan Lucic in to the sun though, strapped to Jankowski and a nuclear missile - but hey, I can't have it all I guess.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah but you can't just gift a guy minutes...Bennett isnt a top line player

Let him bang with Lucic and Ryan...no homo

they looked good tonight actually...low bar

That quick demotion probably hurt Bennett's confidence. Had Johnny made the same mistake he would still be on the top line. No one is trying to gift Bennett opportunities certainly the coach wants him to earn it.

Bob Hartley used to talk about how important it was to keep playing young players so that they would gain confidence. Bennett would the first to tell you he probably wishes he could take bad penalty back. Bennett played very well last season and gained confidence through continued support for his drive and feisty role but already some want to trade and run him out of town again.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Obviously I’m no coach but why doesn’t CGY have the centres come back deep and just make that first pass a short one to the middle? Give the d an easy option to relieve any forecheck pressure.

Use those short passes (even if you have to go back to the d) to breakdown the opponent, get in rhythm and get the offense on time and on track.

CGY were getting nothing off the chip in off the long pass from the d. They are not helping each other. Get closer.

I find that when Rittich gets the puck behind the net he avoids reversing the play to the other dman, and instead tries to rim it up the boards to the winger. Ultimately, kills the attempt to transition.

One way or another, the breakout is broken. Peters needs to get this figured out asap. This team is a transition/rush team only, without it, this offense is dead in the water.

[Chingas]

We can't break out of our zone. We can't enter the offensive zone. We attempt to enter the o-zone by dump and chase yet we can't chase or recover. We spend the Majority of the time running around looking like amateurs.

I sure hope that Peters isn't so stubborn that he won't change like we had to endure with GG. I was so happy to watch the team last year vs what we had prior to Peters, but as others have mentioned we look eerily similar to the neutered team that we were in the playoffs.

It's only 5 games but we need to see major improvement soon or the season will start to slip away.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

That quick demotion probably hurt Bennett's confidence. Had Johnny made the same mistake he would still be on the top line. No one is trying to gift Bennett opportunities certainly the coach wants him to earn it.

Bob Hartley used to talk about how important it was to keep playing young players so that they would gain confidence. Bennett would the first to tell you he probably wishes he could take bad penalty back. Bennett played very well last season and gained confidence through continued support for his drive and feisty role but already some want to trade and run him out of town again.

That’s one of Sam’s problems. How many wishes does he get?

Yet, not much changes. It’s certainly not getting better, is it?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Seedlings

Yeah. Ok.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

That quick demotion probably hurt Bennett's confidence. Had Johnny made the same mistake he would still be on the top line. No one is trying to gift Bennett opportunities certainly the coach wants him to earn it.

Bob Hartley used to talk about how important it was to keep playing young players so that they would gain confidence. Bennett would the first to tell you he probably wishes he could take bad penalty back. Bennett played very well last season and gained confidence through continued support for his drive and feisty role but already some want to trade and run him out of town again.

Bennett has been the worst player on the team this year what is this quick demotion bs

Also, he was at best a decent third liner last year so don’t know what the heck played very well’ junk is. He played well enough to not lose his spot on the third line. And I, for the record, have thought he should have been run out of town years ago before he caved his value on account of being a bad hockey player, which he’s unfortunately done now.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

Close game, Rittich made a (or two) booboo. Coulda/Shoulda/Woulda. Play this game 10 times and it's 5-5. I'm a little worried about Peters though, we have Lindholm available to slot down and run three strong centers - it would completely change the Knight's matchups.

I still want to rocket Milan Lucic in to the sun though, strapped to Jankowski and a nuclear missile - but hey, I can't have it all I guess.

Close game? Whut?

Agree on last point. Strange thing is he was already rocketed to the sun but for some strange reason we decided to pull him back. Because this team is run by morons.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I find that when Rittich gets the puck behind the net he avoids reversing the play to the other dman, and instead tries to rim it up the boards to the winger. Ultimately, kills the attempt to transition.

One way or another, the breakout is broken. Peters needs to get this figured out asap. This team is a transition/rush team only, without it, this offense is dead in the water.

Rittich almost got caught behind the net and subsequently lost his confidence playing the puck. On every play after that he was just firing it high off the wall.

On the Andersson goal he did same thing and it was just lucky bounce that CGY got possession. On other plays he could make an easy pass but he was just ripping high on the boards and it screwed the play up.

He’s got to not let stuff get to him. Shake off bad plays and be consistent. It’s the issue with young players - they can’t find even keel and be consistent. It easy to say from the couch and it might be the crowd noise etc but pros have to find ways.

CGY is just not working together as a unit consistently. You can counter any pressure but CGY has to commit and do the work.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by jonkaupp

Close game? Whut?

Agree on last point. Strange thing is he was already rocketed to the sun but for some strange reason we decided to pull him back. Because this team is run by morons.

Bad goals and bad breaks cost the Flames...MAF made some massive saves

I don't know if I would say even but it wasn't a 6-2 game

[bigrangy]

Team needs an exorcism more than anything, a lot of negative energy surrounding them.

Bennett/Ryan/Frolik/Janko are all functional NHLers, and shouldn’t be as bad as they have been.

Give it some time, and if it all goes sideways, you literally cannot miss in the top 5 of the draft this year.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by timbit

That’s one of Sam’s problems. How many wishes does he get?

Yet, not much changes. It’s certainly not getting better, is it?

Unfortunately no.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

Why is it so hard to find fast players who can also throw a check?

[Manhattanboy]

We need a big trade. Done with Bennett etc.

[calgaryfox]

tbh, it doesn't really matter if we switched the centres, wingers, defense or added Mary Poppins as the Flames play is so predictable. The Avalanche sussed out Peters' one and only plan A in the playoffs...Stop the pass down the boards to the winger or stop the first time pass inside from the winger, clog up the neutral zone and if the need arises, then box out Monahan. Rinse and repeat. The teams we have played so far have all used this. I hope Peters has a few new cunning plans that he's working on. Right now we look painfully short of ideas or alternatives.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

The more I think about it. We’re really not that deep of a team. We have an elite top 4 and then after that the drop off is quite substantial. I’m not convinced that most of our 3rd and 4th lines could crack some other teams rosters.

Let the premature declarations begin!

It's a pretty deep group, the depth just hasnt got their footing yet this year. If it's like last though they'll gain steam as it goes along.

[UKflames]

Firstly, that Las Vegas side is a really good team, that play their system well and they play together


BUT


that has to be one of the worst regular season performances that I have seen this team play in a while. Considering we were claiming that the lack of turn over in the team would be a bonus and help get us up to speed quickly, Peters saying he was going to run camp with regular season lines (which was messed up by the Tkachuck hold out, more on him in a minute), there is absolutely no chemistry in this team at the moment at all, even the first line. We had flashes but that is all they were, flashes, nothing consistent.


Rittich - kept them in this game but there were at least three that sneaked through that he really should have had.


Tkachuck - was he even playing because since he signed that big fat contract he seems to be coasting to me. He isn't engaged, making plays or anything. Where is the Tkachuck that was in peoples faces, giving gloves and pushes after the whistle, driving the net and whacking at the puck???


Bennett/Jankowski - these two are currently the whipping boys, despite the lack of results from the whole team, but I actually thought that the third line with Lucic was possibly one of the better lines of the night. They pressured the puck, got the cycle going and created some chances. Probably not a popular opinion but that's what I saw.


Brodie/Stone - Always seemd to be the two D that were on whenever things were all scrambled in our end, just saying.


Overall a shocking performance. I'ts early in the season and there is still time to get it together but they better get the win against SJ, otherwise people are going to really start to worry about this team.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

he would be claimed

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Dude, the season is 5 games deep. Neal is on pace for 115 goals, the Oilers are still in the playoff seedlings.

He was our best skater last year in the only 5 games that actually mattered

Neal is a perennial 20+ goal scorer outside of last year. Had 40 and a 31 goal season despite only play over 70 games 3 times .

Bennet has only scored over 13 goals 1 season and has never been a plus player.

Dude compare the stats not very far off Nail and Sam are 2 sides of the same coin. Both underperforming terrible high 1st round draft picks. Nail could arguably be the better player stats wise because he played way less games per season he only played over 60 games 2
times. 63 and 81.Sam has never played less than 71.

Sam.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=160252

Nail
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130572

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I'll just reiterate what I said in the game thread.

Jankowski needs to sit for a game or two and watch the game. He's just absolutely brain dead out there in his own zone, and you can't afford that with a center. Clear his head, refocus, get back to basics, then when he looks good in practice bring him back in. Czarnik can handle 4th line center duties for a couple games, or you can give Bennett 3rd line center duties and put Czarnik on the wing. Janko is simply costing the team too many goals/scoring chances right now to stay in the lineup. If he doesn't figure it out soon I think you see Dube called up. If/when that happens, it could be the end of Jankowski's time as a Flame.

Stone looks like a borderline NHLer at the moment. I know we don't have a lot of better options on the farm, so he's going to get plenty of rope, but he didn't look very good again tonight, and was actually worse than the other night in Dallas. Kylington needs to play the vast majority of the games this year based on what we've seen so far from both.

I can't be too mad at the couple goals that finally squeaked through Rittich since he made so many 10 bell saves. All goalies have those games. Don't get too worried about it. However, it's definitely time to give Talbot a game, especially in a back to back on the road. History tells us that if you play Rittich too much his game falls apart just a little, and he goes from incredible to below average very quickly. I hope the coaching staff is working on managing his work load consistently throughout the year. Kipper he is not. You can't play him for 70+ games and for 10+ games in a row and not worry about it.

This is a team that just needs some more practice time and an extended home stand. Once they get that I suspect everything will become more cohesive. If it doesn't, I suspect that Treliving will be working the phones on a trade to try and shake things up.

[Royle9]

I’m at the point where I’d probably explore a Bennet for Poolparty flip and just see what happens.

We’re not going to be the team that helps him grow anymore, may as well let him go score 20 with McDavid too and see if Jesse can flourish on the right side with Tkachuk