10-08-2019, 08:07 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Joborule
That's not the point.
The point is that you need goals to win games. Neal scoring goals for the Flames does more in winning the game than Lucic hitting guys.
Lucic isn't going to make the Flames win more games, whereas there's a case where Neal could for the Oilers if he actually scores this season.
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Since we are playing in this magical imaginary " what if" wonderland, Neal staying on with the Flames again this year does not mean he does or does not score as many as he did or is with Edmonton. What's done is done and who gives a rat's ass about the Oilers . I dont think Oiler fans are as obsessed with the Oilers as much as Flames fans.
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10-08-2019, 08:12 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I dont think Oiler fans are as obsessed with the Oilers as much as Flames fans.
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I would be curious to know this.
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10-08-2019, 08:13 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
He was terrible last season. Good riddance. Plus it's a tad early to be calling the trade great or terrible. It's a long, long season.
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It's a long, long 4 years...still a lot more nervous about mid 30s Lucic than mid 30s Neal.
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Lets wait and see who wins more games this season
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What if the Flames win fewer than they did last year and the Oilers win more than they did last year?
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10-08-2019, 08:20 PM
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#144
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
That's not the point.
The point is that you need goals to win games. Neal scoring goals for the Flames does more in winning the game than Lucic hitting guys.
Lucic isn't going to make the Flames win more games, whereas there's a case where Neal could for the Oilers if he actually scores this season.
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Did you watch this team last season? 
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10-08-2019, 08:32 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I dont think Oiler fans are as obsessed with the Oilers as much as Flames fans.
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Flames fans are obsessed with the Oilers
Oiler fans are stuck in the past
Jets fans wanna fight with everyone
Montreal fans are entitled
Toronto fans are homers who barely know anything outside their team
Canuck fans are bandwagon jumpers who literally burn their city down when things don't go their way
Sens fans are nothing. No one cares about Sens fans
These are the truths of Canadian fan bases.
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10-08-2019, 08:48 PM
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#146
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Powerplay Quarterback
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All Neal is doing is making sure the Oilers don't get a top 10 pick...thanks James!
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10-08-2019, 08:58 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
That's not the point.
The point is that you need goals to win games. Neal scoring goals for the Flames does more in winning the game than Lucic hitting guys.
Lucic isn't going to make the Flames win more games, whereas there's a case where Neal could for the Oilers if he actually scores this season.
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And?
If the Flames do better this season (get past the first round) then its a good deal. Lucic can be a big part of that while not scoring much
If Neal makes the Oilers 5 points better who gives a ####...it actually hurts them long term
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10-08-2019, 09:11 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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Bruins are up 4-2 in Vegas
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10-08-2019, 09:14 PM
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#149
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
And?
If the Flames do better this season (get past the first round) then its a good deal. Lucic can be a big part of that while not scoring much
If Neal makes the Oilers 5 points better who gives a ####...it actually hurts them long term
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Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.
Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.
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10-08-2019, 09:16 PM
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#150
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Lifetime Suspension
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wrong thread
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10-08-2019, 09:18 PM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.
Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.
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Keep reading this over and over until you figure out what's wrong with it
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10-08-2019, 09:19 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.
Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.
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Flames win the cup and you would still be pissed?goto bed.
It's 3 effing games into the season.
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10-08-2019, 09:30 PM
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#153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Keep reading this over and over until you figure out what's wrong with it
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Flames win the cup and you would still be pissed?goto bed.
It's 3 effing games into the season.
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So by default if you trade Monahan for say Ryan Reaves, and Flames win the cup although Monahan scores 30 this season, and Reaves score 10, you'll still consider it a good trade?
Give me a break. They're not mutually exclusive. It's still possible to make bad trades, while still having overall success. This is asset management we're talking about here.
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10-08-2019, 09:31 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
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keep reading
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10-08-2019, 09:31 PM
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#155
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.
Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.
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10-08-2019, 09:32 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
keep reading
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You and I have a completely different viewpoint on what makes a good trade or not. No more reading is necessary.
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10-08-2019, 09:34 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
You and I have a completely different viewpoint on what makes a good trade or not. No more reading is necessary.
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A good trade is one that makes your team better. If the Flames win the cup, that's the whole ####ing point. Who cares how many goals Neal scores?
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10-08-2019, 09:38 PM
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#158
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pigeon Lake
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Well that was a beauuuuuty. AC that's going to make a beautiful video!
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10-08-2019, 10:06 PM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.
Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.
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what a horrible take...Flames win the cup with Lucic crashing and banging and its a grand slam home run
bad asset management? obviously there weren't any other teams that wanted Neal
Are the other 3 teams that let him go dumb too?
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10-08-2019, 10:08 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Flames fans are obsessed with the Oilers
Oiler fans are stuck in the past
Jets fans wanna fight with everyone
Montreal fans are entitled
Toronto fans are homers who barely know anything outside their team
Canuck fans are bandwagon jumpers who literally burn their city down when things don't go their way
Sens fans are nothing. No one cares about Sens fans
These are the truths of Canadian fan bases.
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Sens fans are the morose and forgotten emo kid of divorced parents. Sad and beaten regularly.
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