Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-30-2019, 12:06 PM   #21
Hey Connor, It's Mess
First Line Centre
 
Hey Connor, It's Mess's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Hey Connor, It's Mess is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hey Connor, It's Mess For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 12:08 PM   #22
Roof-Daddy
Franchise Player
 
Roof-Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Wow. That's rough.

Most of his trades were head scratchers though.

I'd like to know exactly what the deal was with the Flames involving Zucker.

IIRC, it was reported that the deal fell through because the paperwork didn't get properly filed in time from Minny's side, and it was also said somewhere that Treliving was some kind of hot after it fell through. Must have been a fleecing in his mind.
Roof-Daddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 12:10 PM   #23
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

Timing is pretty bad. I can't imagine too many teams will be letting the Wild interview anyone on their staff this late in the offseason. They are going to have to find a GM via the recycle bin.
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 12:10 PM   #24
4X4
One of the Nine
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale View Post
I don't even understand what the lizard thing even means.

If ever there was a team to deserve Chiarelli, it's the Wild. I know there not really a rival and don't do anything 'bad'. But I just can't stand how they always seem to hang around, sometimes snag a playoff spot, then never advance. They were also one of the first teams to sign players to stupid 13 year contracts with Parise and Suter and really open the floodgates for those kind of deals.
What about the time they broke Johnny's hand? They deserve Chiarelli for that.
4X4 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to 4X4 For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 12:14 PM   #25
Toonage
Taking a while to get to 5000
 
Toonage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

Was so hoping they would have snuck in to play the Flames in the 1st round last spring. Just imagine.
Toonage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 12:15 PM   #26
Oling_Roachinen
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale View Post
I don't even understand what the lizard thing even means.
The full context of the quote isn't that bad, just weird. He was watching a nature documentary and saw how a lizard would shoot out its tongue and bring it back in with the bug it was searching for stuck on it.

He was saying Zuccarello when fighting for the puck would put his stick in and come out with the puck. More or less saying that despite his size he was strong at puck battles.
Oling_Roachinen is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Oling_Roachinen For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 12:19 PM   #27
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen View Post
The full context of the quote isn't that bad, just weird. He was watching a nature documentary and saw how a lizard would shoot out its tongue and bring it back in with the bug it was searching for stuck on it.

He was saying Zuccarello when fighting for the puck would put his stick in and come out with the puck. More or less saying that despite his size he was strong at puck battles.
Yeah. It's kind of an odd way to describe a hockey player but I understand what he was getting at. I'm pretty sure he didn't get fired for this comment and more for being a really bad GM. I didn't think Fletcher was a good GM so it's time this club found a decent GM. Or maybe not as I just don't like this organization.
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 01:21 PM   #28
Geeoff
Franchise Player
 
Geeoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Exp:
Default

I'm not surprised. He lost every trade he made.
Geeoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 01:54 PM   #29
TheScorpion
First round-bust
 
TheScorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff View Post
I'm not surprised. He lost every trade he made.
Not sure about that one. Granlund-for-Fiala is still up in the air, and Coyle-for-Donato doesn't look bad at all.

But the Niederreiter trade was a straight-up fleecing in every respect.
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE

TheScorpion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 02:36 PM   #30
agulati
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Exp:
Default

Would be very interesting to find out if there was a deal taken to ownership that caused him to be let go right now. It is a weird time in the off-season for this to happen.
agulati is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 03:09 PM   #31
MolsonInBothHands
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati View Post
Would be very interesting to find out if there was a deal taken to ownership that caused him to be let go right now. It is a weird time in the off-season for this to happen.
He missed out on the Neal sweepstakes?
__________________
"Cammy just threw them in my locker & told me to hold on to them." - Giordano on the pencils from Iggy's stall.
MolsonInBothHands is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 03:11 PM   #32
djsFlames
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick View Post
That hockey market deserves more success than they've seen since they entered the league.
No.
djsFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to djsFlames For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 04:18 PM   #33
dash_pinched
Franchise Player
 
dash_pinched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hey connor, it's mess View Post
https://twitter.com/user/status/1156292572567887872
dash_pinched is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to dash_pinched For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 08:35 PM   #34
Ped
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
Exp:
Default

Lots of reports coming out that this was more an issue of Fenton's management style, rather than the trades specifically.
Ped is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2019, 08:49 PM   #35
Scroopy Noopers
Pent-up
 
Scroopy Noopers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
Exp:
Default

Jesus Christ Fenton!
Scroopy Noopers is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Scroopy Noopers For This Useful Post:
Old 07-30-2019, 11:15 PM   #36
Deegee
First Line Centre
 
Deegee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Exp:
Default

Sigh.

Last edited by Deegee; 07-30-2019 at 11:19 PM. Reason: First Fata
Deegee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2019, 06:24 AM   #37
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped View Post
Lots of reports coming out that this was more an issue of Fenton's management style, rather than the trades specifically.
From what I read at the Athletic it seems like Fenton had not made many friends in the building. According to this article everyone from players to hockey ops were not happy with the way they were being treated. Leipold basically said the guy was a great scout but a lousy manager. Sometimes there's a reason some of these guys remain long time AGM's getting passed over year after year.

https://theathletic.com/1107006/2019...their-next-gm/
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2019, 07:35 AM   #38
kyuss275
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

This team needs a full rebuild. They should be looking at Ron hextal. He drafted some good players when gm of flyers. He takes a slow aproach rather than trying to fast track a re-tool. I think Philly was stupid to fire him and the seeing what the new GM for philly did this summer is going to prove that.
kyuss275 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2019, 08:37 AM   #39
bax
#1 Goaltender
 
bax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
From what I read at the Athletic it seems like Fenton had not made many friends in the building. According to this article everyone from players to hockey ops were not happy with the way they were being treated. Leipold basically said the guy was a great scout but a lousy manager. Sometimes there's a reason some of these guys remain long time AGM's getting passed over year after year.

https://theathletic.com/1107006/2019...their-next-gm/
Couple that information with his moves:

Nino for Rask
Firing their analytic team
Lucking out with the Zucker trade falling through
Zuccarello contract
Going off the board with their first round pick
bax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2019, 08:58 AM   #40
Matt Reeeeead
Scoring Winger
 
Matt Reeeeead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Matt Boldy was not an off the board pick.
Matt Reeeeead is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:54 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy