[Signing] Philly signs Kevin Hayes (7 years, $7.14 mil AAV)

[DazzlinDino]

Flyers are probably hoping throwing this kind of money around will entice Johnny. Obviously they must have some sort of plan around Hayes to be offering him that kind of money.

Going to be a lot harder to sign players like Tkachuk when middling players can command that kind of money.

[Buck Murdock]

Kevin Hayes makes more than James Neal...let that sink in....

[Locke]

Originally Posted by timbit

So who made the worst deal?

Winnipeg giving up their first round pick for Hayes or Flyers giving up a 5th Rounder back to the Jets and signing him for 7 years at 7.1 AAV?

Well thats just 'Sophie's Choice.'

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by timbit

So who made the worst deal?

Winnipeg giving up their first round pick for Hayes or Flyers giving up a 5th Rounder back to the Jets and signing him for 7 years at 7.1 AAV?

Jets saw their window and went for it. Late 20 pick is fine for a depth guy like Hayes. This was their opportunity, before they have to pay Laine and dump Trouba.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Kevin Hayes makes more than James Neal...let that sink in....

He makes more than any member of the Flames (for now, at least).

[Locke]

Originally Posted by getbak

He makes more than any member of the Flames (for now, at least).

In Treliving we Trust.

What the hell is going on in hockey contracts?

[agulati]

This makes Evander Kane’s contract look reasonable. It’s crazy. I never would have fathomed Kevin Hayes getting a 7+ million dollar contract, but here we are.

[jg13]

[mrdonkey]

Cripes this is bad. At this rate we might need another round of compliance buyouts just to save the league from itself.

It’s entirely conceivable Duchene makes more on his next contract than McDavid.

[Dion]

Kudos to Hayes agent for getting that much money and term from the Flyers. There are some stupid GM's in this league.

[Philly06Cup]

Anyone want to discuss Hayes as a player?

Can play all forward positions, but mostly center. Played with Alain Vigneault in NY and was used primarily a defensive specialist. He fits the Flyers' biggest need of 2C and of defensively aware players. I can see why the Flyers targeted him.

Re: Contract term. "Worst contract ever" and comparisons to Holik are pretty unfair. The number being thrown around was 6x6.5 -- this isn't that off. The Flyers are definitely overreacting to ownership wanting flashy moves, but this is hardly outrageous. They're lucky enough to have other players on good / EL contracts they can afford to make some overpayments on their way to being a contender.

[Dajazz]

I think flyers were something like 13 million BELOW cap floor before the signing. They were/are well set up cap wise with super deals on Horacek, Giroux, Couturier etc so they can afford it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them go hard after Duchesne too and maybe trade Gostisbere to Montreal for a ransom.

Having said that, it’s still too high for me. I figured he would be in the 5-6 million range, just shows how good our Monahan/Gio/Johnny/Backlund contracts are.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Anyone want to discuss Hayes as a player?

Can play all forward positions, but mostly center. Played with Alain Vigneault in NY and was used primarily a defensive specialist. He fits the Flyers' biggest need of 2C and of defensively aware players. I can see why the Flyers targeted him.

Re: Contract term. "Worst contract ever" and comparisons to Holik are pretty unfair. The number being thrown around was 6x6.5 -- this isn't that off. The Flyers are definitely overreacting to ownership wanting flashy moves, but this is hardly outrageous. They're lucky enough to have other players on good / EL contracts they can afford to make some overpayments on their way to being a contender.

So when are we going to see them?

[AC]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Think AC means even him being an RFA this year he would of got more than 4.85

Yeah, exactly.

I was agreeing it was a good thing that we were able to sign Lindholm prior to his breakout year.

[Johnny Makarov]

Philly's GM was in a hayes when he made this offer.

[ComixZone]

I spent the night drinking, and generally agree with top end players getting friggin’ paid

...but wtf m8.

Then again, Jeff Skinner got 9M per for 8 years and that dude hasn’t cracked 65 points.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Anyone want to discuss Hayes as a player?

Can play all forward positions, but mostly center. Played with Alain Vigneault in NY and was used primarily a defensive specialist. He fits the Flyers' biggest need of 2C and of defensively aware players. I can see why the Flyers targeted him.

Re: Contract term. "Worst contract ever" and comparisons to Holik are pretty unfair. The number being thrown around was 6x6.5 -- this isn't that off. The Flyers are definitely overreacting to ownership wanting flashy moves, but this is hardly outrageous. They're lucky enough to have other players on good / EL contracts they can afford to make some overpayments on their way to being a contender.

Personally I think Hayes is over rated. He's big, but doesn't really use his size, he is just ok offensively and is just ok defensively. He is best suited as a 3rd line center, but keeps getting mis cast as a 2nd line center.

Part of the problem is that he got over paid on his last contract at $5.175m and that's where Philly had to start as opposed to end.

[GreenLantern2814]

These inflated contracts are what you get when you eliminate the super long term deals. The players are still going to get their money, but now they have to get in seven years max. They aren't just going to take less.

If anything, this will help with parity and player movement. Transactions are what drives interest in sport.

But to be clear, there's no scenario where Kevin Hayes is worth $7M a year. unless they're gambling that Kevin Hayes will be able to woo Johnny Gaudreau.

Congratulations, you signed a Freddie Hamilton for $50 million.

[Locke]

I think we can conclusively blame legal marijuana.

"I signed to who to what for how long now?"

[CanadaMatt]

How much does that make Chucky worth as an analogue? 12 million?